WildBillKelsoe Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Hiya! An intriguing article on wikipedia caught my attention the other day, and I wonder if anybd tried that before (LABS?) Military buffs will enjoy this one. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
kylania Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Can the A-10 fly fast enough to make that possible? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Christmas Cheer - A Landing Practice Mission : Beta Paint Schemes : HOTAS Keyboard Map : Bingo Fuel - A DCS A-10C Movie
cichlidfan Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 My guess is no, you would have to impart a lot of energy into that bomb to get it to do that. By the time the A-10 is even close to vertical it is not going to have much energy left. Not to mention that you might rip the wings off just diving to get up enough speed. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
EtherealN Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Possible, yes, useful, no. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
RodBorza Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 In the book "Every Man a Tiger", Gen. Chuck Horner describes that this maneuver was trained in the 60's by the USAF. Its purpose was the launching of nuclear weapons and then getting out of dodge pretty fast. But, hey, the USAF did train for this kind of stunt with F-100's**, which were fast and powerful jets. For the A-10, carrying a light load may be possible. But I have my doubts if the Hog is hauling two big Mk-84's, or sme Mk-82's for example. In short, never tried it, have to. ** = if I'm not mistaken. :music_whistling: This is an amazing sim! 'Nuff said!:pilotfly: YouTube: SloppyDog
menendezdiego Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Interesting topic...A-7 Nuclear Delivery
thaisocom Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Can the A-10 fly fast enough to make that possible?That's a good question. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CM HAF-X | Corsair HX1000i | ASUS P8P67Pro | Intel Core i7 2600 @ 4.0GHz | Corsair CWCH70 | G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600MHz | ASUS GeForce GTX 970 4GB | Plextor M5Pro 256GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB * 2 RAID 0 | WD Caviar Green 2TB | Windows 10 Professional X64 | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedal
thaisocom Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Only one way to find out...All we need to do is get into the cockpit then we will get our answer.:pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CM HAF-X | Corsair HX1000i | ASUS P8P67Pro | Intel Core i7 2600 @ 4.0GHz | Corsair CWCH70 | G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600MHz | ASUS GeForce GTX 970 4GB | Plextor M5Pro 256GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB * 2 RAID 0 | WD Caviar Green 2TB | Windows 10 Professional X64 | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedal
Schnarre Aggro Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 anybody considered that aiming is impossible with dumb bombs with this method ?.... i know why they only thought about ........... this is just hilarious... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] There are two types of fighter pilots - those who have, and those who will execute a magnificent break turn towards a bug on the canopy . . . . http://www.youtube.com/user/schnarrsonvomdach http://www.twitch.tv/schnarre https://www.facebook.com/pages/Schnarre-Schnarrson/876084505743788?fref=ts
Geert Hooghe Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Hiya! An intriguing article on wikipedia caught my attention the other day, and I wonder if anybd tried that before (LABS?) Military buffs will enjoy this one. "...Five hundred knots. Switch down, button pressed...." Can the A-10 get this speed in level flight ? Seems to me you must come out of a dive to do that ! And what about the resistance of the frame of the plane (wings, rudders, ...) ! I doubt it !
Aries Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 The frame falls appart at arround 400-450kts if you try to pull out of it a little harder... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ...the few, the proud, the remaining...
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 16, 2011 Author Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) come on!!! try it!!! tracks are immensely appreciated!!! Even if you snap the wings, post yer tracks haar.. EDIT: you can start off with easy VID objects like bridges or buildings. It can be hairy with the A-10 but get like a pair triplet of Mk82s (or try AIR) and post yer tracks. lets see it people :D Edited September 16, 2011 by WildBillKelsoe AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
MTFDarkEagle Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Why don't you try it yourself? Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
galagamo Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Will the FCS even let you release ordinance inverted, is there a way to override it? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] OS:WIN7 HP X64|MOBO:ASRock Z68|CPU:I52500k@4Ghz|RAM:12Gb 3x4Gb GSkill Ripjaws 9-9-9-24 @1600Mhz|GPU:ASUS GTX580|HDD:2x128Gb Crucial sataIII SSD raid0|PSU:Antek 1000watt|Case:Antek 1200|Peripherals: TMWH|Saitek ProFlight rudder pedals|TrackIr4
Dr Zaius Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Didn't the North American A-5 Vigilante use the same delivery technique when employing nukes? Had some sort of crazy bomb tube in between the engines if I remember correctly which aided plane/munition separation at supersonic speeds - that and the forward momentum helped the A-5 bug out before the really big bang going off! System Specs: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6GHz @ 4.8GHz, Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master, 32 GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3600 RAM, GeForce GTX 4090, Crucial SSD (2TB), TrackIR 5, TM Throttle, VPC WarBRD Stick, TM T-Flight Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49” Odyssey G9
MTFDarkEagle Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Eventhough it would be awsome if possible, I highly doubt if this is possible in the A-10C, purely from the fact that the A-10C is too "slow". Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Fleshpiston Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 No can do at that speed..... I will keep trying until my beer runs out and that is only 2 pints more............... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] AEF Flesh | 161 SQN System: 965BE / 5850 Toxic / TrackIR 5 Pro / 120gb Corsair Force 3 GT / 2TB Raid10 / 6GB RAM /TM HOTAS Warthog / G13 / Combat Rudder Pedals..... and lots more :doh:
slowhand Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) that's a Rockwell A-5 Vigilate droped its nukes backward ..great plane one of the fastest in its time 2.1 mach..:thumbup: Edited September 16, 2011 by slowhand [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] SMOKE'M:smoke: IF YA GOT'M!:gun_rifle: H2o Cooler I7 9700k GA 390x MB Win 10 pro Evga RTX 2070 8Gig DD5 32 Gig Corsair Vengence, 2T SSD. TM.Warthog:joystick: :punk:, CV-1:matrix:,3x23" monitors, Tm MFD's, Saitek pro rudders wrapped up in 2 sheets of plywood:megalol:
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 16, 2011 Author Posted September 16, 2011 Not doable... at 450 I snapped the wing. Besides, the pilot gets a qeue like CCRP of when he's to flare up and when to drop the bomb.. I guess at least... AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
cichlidfan Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Not to mention that you might rip the wings off just diving to get up enough speed. :music_whistling: ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 16, 2011 Author Posted September 16, 2011 :music_whistling: :( --> :mad: --> :megalol: AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Evil.Bonsai Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) It works, sorta. You can definitely toss it 'backwards' but it doesn't go very far in that direction. Just do a loop, then release when you get to 50-45 degrees while still pulling towards ground. Just tried it several times. The loop itself is way larger than the toss distance. Edited September 16, 2011 by Evil.Bonsai
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 16, 2011 Author Posted September 16, 2011 It works, sorta. You can definitely toss it 'backwards' but it doesn't go very far in that direction. Just do a loop, then release when you get to 50-45 degrees while still pulling towards ground. Just tried it several times. The loop itself is way larger than the toss distance. Track? AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
ESzczesniak Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 ;1292318']anybody considered that aiming is impossible with dumb bombs with this method ?.... i know why they only thought about ........... this is just hilarious... Your point is well taken. However, I wonder how well CCRP mode might work with this. Depending on how the computers handle it, this could be like an extreme toss bombing.
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