Black Shark and A-10C aren't available :<

Hi,

first time opening DCS World. I see Ka-50 and A-10C icons but they have little dollar signs next to them and I can't fly them ?

Am I missing something obvious. I checked the options, I was looking through the Forum...

I have A-10C and BS1 on Steam and I think the BS2 Upgrade.

:<

Hi,

 

first time opening DCS World. I see Ka-50 and A-10C icons but they have little dollar signs next to them and I can't fly them ?

 

Am I missing something obvious. I checked the options, I was looking through the Forum...

 

I have A-10C and BS1 on Steam and I think the BS2 Upgrade.

 

:<

They are not working yet this is still the beta.

when you open DCS World you may notice the word "BETA" so no not available yet but as the very popular saying goes, "soon"

The Modules for DCS:-World haven't been released yet - when they are, just download, install and fly - these will see your already activated DCS installs - installs which you can remove if you prefer.

Nate

I think he gets it now!:thumbup:

Hi, Nate! So, from what you're saying, in future do we have to have the BS install, then BS2 (if we have the upgrade) installed to then be able to install DCS World and install the BS add on?

Hi, Nate! So, from what you're saying, in future do we have to have the BS install, then BS2 (if we have the upgrade) installed to then be able to install DCS World and install the BS add on?

Means: If BS2 is already activated on your system you won't need to install BS1 - because it was already approved that you have a legit upgrade.

If your system is clean - means no installation for BS1. You will have to install it once to make your upgrade-key of BS2 legit. Than you can install any further patch for BS2 without having BS1 on your hard-drive.

So keep your BS1+Key and BS2Upgarde+Key at a very save place. You may will need it some day you change the system.

That's how I understand it.

And here a plain and simple explanation why current DCS products don't work with DCS:World:

Righ now BS2/A-10 are v.1.1.1.1

DCS:World is right now v1.1.2.1 (and this will obviously go higher until final release)

So we have to wait until DCS A-10/BS2 will meet the same version to be able to integrate them into DCS:World.

Just a thought. would it be possable to made it so instead of installing BS1 and then BS2 maybe make it possable to have a option of installing the BS1 and BS2 CD key instead if DCS world can reconzise both CD keys it would be a great way to bypass the whole install BS1 just so you could install BS2

Just a thought

Jesse

My thoughts on this:

This would inherit a new talk between ED and Starforce; as Starforce triggers what is legit and what combination is not legit.

This would also mean that ED has to fully remove the possibility to buy a "upgrade" - so no one has the possibility to activate a BS1-upgrade without ever owning BS1.

Adding the possibility to first enter the BS1-key and than the BS2-upgrade-key to make BS-upgrade work with DCS:World would probably mean that Starforce has to rewrite parts of the code of the activation processes - so I don't think that something like this will happen.

Because of things like this I also tend to Buy BS2 again once it is on special-sale.

Thank you for that clarification Nate, much appreciated. :> I'll just keep an eye out for updates and modules then.

That's great, because I'm starting to run out of HD space and had to uninstall BS2 for the time being. Though when I got the P-51 I also uninstalled IL-2, which had so gotten bloated with mods, anyway, so I'm good for a while.

Also great news because even as a beta DCS World just seems to run a lot better for me - I actually had to dial back my video card overclock because it was being kept so busy instead of being allowed to jump in at the last instant and cause microstutter.

Even with everything turned all the way up, I only get an FPS slowdown when looking directly at an urban area, while with A-10 I'd always get a half-second pause whenever I went up and then way back down again as it loaded ground detail, which is especially annoying because 80% of the time I'm diving like that it's because I'm lining up a shot.

Can't wait to see the hog and the shark imported into a new and better world.

So if I understand things correctly a dance is required to get everything up and running. Is there any chance we'll see something like Rof? Just install, enter your DCS ID and have the purchased stuff available to you?

Or even a website check to confirm your licenses?

So if I understand things correctly a dance is required to get everything up and running. Is there any chance we'll see something like Rof? Just install, enter your DCS ID and have the purchased stuff available to you?

Or even a website check to confirm your licenses?

What do you mean a dance? Install DCS:-World - install the modules you own into it.

How is that difficult?

Nate

What do you mean a dance? Install DCS:-World - install the modules you own into it.

 

How is that difficult?

 

Nate

It's just cumbersome,

Install World. then install Lomac, then FC2, Ka-50, then -V2, Then install te A10.. that's a S**tload of G's to download (again)..

It's not very user friendly, when it could be easier. I bought a new pc a few months back, and wanted to get into things again. Heard about DCS world, loved the idea and just wondered how the install was going to be. My favourite option was just to be able to insert all my product codes and have the program search for my lockon dvd. ( 4 serials and a dvd check is better then having to download all that stuff again. )

Now this was just a question, and you have answered it. It's not what I would have liked to read, but it's clear.

Thank you

It's just cumbersome.......It's not what I would have liked to read, but it's clear.

I am sure you have misunderstood. You want to see something like ROF? That is exactly what you are going to see. You have the Core install. Thereafter individual modules are downloaded and installed.

How does this differ from ROF base install and purchased planes? And forget for the moment the LOMAC analogy as that is a licence issue.....LOMAC install just needed for verification and thereafter no need for the install.

that's a S**tload of G's to download (again)..

How is 160MB for the P-51 Module a S**tload of G's pray tell? That should give you an indication that modules are far, far smaller than the core install.

your original a10 install, bs1 or bs2 install will be redundant due to the existance of the DCS:world only requiring the assets for the specific aircraft etc. where the a10 install was previously many gigs as it included the world scenery that is DCS world, from now on "soon" applying the aircraft will come without the necessity they previously had of installing the world. so less to download in general after the DCS:World install.

People are assuming the other version of their DCS product has to be installed to be able to install the "World" version - only for the sake of getting the key. Seems like the wrong assuption to me. The world version will probably work just like the P-51- install your module and put in your key for said module. If you download the 160meg file for A-10 and use your product key why would it be gigs and gigs????

Full and complete install procedure:

1) Install DCS World. This is a multiple-GB download.

2) Install whatever modules you want and have purchased. These are in the hundreds of megabytes.

3) Play the simulator to your heart's content. :)

As you can see, this is very simple, nothing to be worried about. :)

question for ya EtherealN, will all dcs titles come with optional world install or will world eventuallly be seperated from the aircraft too. for example may we see a torrent file containing only the aircraft assets in future ? for example few hundred meg p51 install via torrent. we all got world via the p51, so what happens for the next thing ? i know there was a seperate exe file download link (that wouldnt work for me) for the p51 but point is not that. and i had to get the torrent and in future i would like the option of not downloading world via the main torrent.

I guess once DCS:-World leaves Beta you will see that separation.

Nate

I guess once DCS:-World leaves Beta you will see that separation.

 

Nate

ahh ha ! :thumbup:

which leads me to ask, MS Flight is flaunted a certain way similar in which DCS could pan out, will Ed flaunt in the same vain.

loosly described without the game play connotations, will DCS world resemble a Free 2 Play model in some fashion as an entity of its own ?

what i see here is remarkable in terms of where it could go. Trumping competitons via 3rd party involvment. sheesh.

DCS world resemble a Free 2 Play model in some fashion as an entity of its own ?

?

It is already F2P.

Nate

Full and complete install procedure:

1) Install DCS World. This is a multiple-GB download.

2) Install whatever modules you want and have purchased. These are in the hundreds of megabytes.

3) Play the simulator to your heart's content. :)

 

As you can see, this is very simple, nothing to be worried about. :)

Ok. Thanks for clarifying the procedure. I guess it's really the best we could hope for given that DCS wasn"t originally designed to have a single front end.

It also raises the question how we should go about patching. ( it's inevitable .. ) Separate patched per module?

Having said all above, I really would like to see, sometimes in the future, a single install which encompasses all separate available mods/add-ons in which you can just enter your product codes to unlock said mods/add-ons. Makes it easy to patch, and even though you're not entitled to fly a certain add-on, you could still use it as an AI entity.

Koriel, the thing there though is that then you will end up potentially downloading multiple gb of files you dont need. Why force someone that does not have nor want to download p-51d specific files? What is easy and preferred for one person may be an inconvenience for another.

Ali Fish, note that you dont have to download the entire DCS World package when torrenting even if it is present in the file. Just uncheck the files you dont want in your torrent application. ;-)

I really would like to see, sometimes in the future, a single install which encompasses all separate available mods/add-ons in which you can just enter your product codes to unlock said mods/add-ons.

You Buy/Add a module = they will be integrated ,and DCS is still a single Install afterwards - btw: most files for each (coming)module is already at your drive.

When a patch is done - just install it . Why the hell should the DEVs wait to release a ready patch for a singel issiue in Module X just because someone (I'm looking now above) starts to moan, just because maybe a week later is another patch ready that fixes another module.

And each patch will also go in the same single installation. Wherever it fixes something in the core or parts of a module - it simply don't matters for you - as everything will be integrated in DCS:World.

Even if you don't have specific module X as Flyable. You will still need to patch in most cases , as this will ensure MP compatibility.

I hope you get my idea.

And when someone makes a mod (not a third party module) - you have to install it only once - as you will have it available in all modules e.g. sun-ray modification. - see, - much simpler as before.

Edit: Norrised by EtherealN