159th_Viper Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 In reality, kph probably stands for knots, which is likely why Bunyap collapsed that right main, landing at ~300+ knots is pretty hot, even for a rough-field bird like the MiG-21. No, all references are in kilometers per hour as opposed to knots. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
laxentis Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 In reality, kph probably stands for knots per hour, which is likely why Bunyap collapsed that right main, landing at ~300+ knots is pretty hot, even for a rough-field bird like the MiG-21. Knots per hour makes no sense. 1 Knot is 1 Nautical mile per hour, so "knots per hour" would mean "Nautical miles per hour per hour". It is kilometres per hour. ~300 kph is ~162 kts
Dudikoff Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 It is kilometres per hour. The official abbreviation is km/h not kph (like e.g. for mph) which is common only in English if I'm not mistaken, hence why it could be confusing. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Corrigan Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 Knots per hour makes no sense. 1 Knot is 1 Nautical mile per hour, so "knots per hour" would mean "Nautical miles per hour per hour". It is kilometres per hour. ~300 kph is ~162 kts To be pedantic, it does make sense, just not as a speed. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
uboats Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 The official abbreviation is km/h not kph (like e.g. for mph) which is common only in English if I'm not mistaken, hence why it could be confusing. while knot is the unit for speed, while kilometer is unit for distance. So kph couldn't be knot/hour. But normal we use km/h, rarely see kph [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn |
Flagrum Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 {Nitpick mode: on] As was already said, "km/h" is the internationally standardized way to write it - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units While "mph" totally makes sense, "kph" doesn't. The "k" just means "kilo" for 1000 and the actual unit is "m" for meter. So "xxx km/h" means in fact "xxx thousand meters per hour" while "xxx kph" would just mean "xxx thousand per hour" ... but completely lacks the actual unit. :o) {Nitpick mode: off}
mpdugas Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) I gotta work more on my jokes...let's see...English miles, Roman miles, statute miles, nautical miles, Arabic miles, U.S. survey miles...which mph is it? I still like klick per hour, though, even if 'We ' don't, whoever that is. I do accept the correction for my redundancy: it would be knots, not knots per hour...thanks, Laxentis! "Klick" is fairly common spoken usage, for the longer word kilometer, among the military types of my acquaintance, anyway. Km/h or kilometers per hour (kph) are all fine for written expression, but I was hearing Bunyap trying to figure out how to SAY it in a simpler fashion. Most folks who were in the European theater that I knew, that is, military types, called the kilometer a 'klick' in their speech. So klick per hour would be an easy way to SAY it; I am curious, though, how the English-speaking military folks say the term kph or km/h in Europe. How does the LN/English-labelled cockpit for the MiG-21 write it? Edited August 30, 2014 by mpdugas
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Flagrum Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 pedantry? precision! "The truck is moving west on the road with *garbled* per hour. That is your target!" a JTAC never said. :o)
VincentLaw Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 Knots per hour makes no sense. 1 Knot is 1 Nautical mile per hour, so "knots per hour" would mean "Nautical miles per hour per hour".To be pedantic, it does make sense, just not as a speed.So an airplane with an initial speed of 150 kts, traveling at 50 kts/h will be traveling at 200 kts after 1 hour of flight. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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Oesau Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 As the OP of the Kph comment - I wished I hadn't brought it up as it has taken away from what is a fantastic series of videos and I apologise for getting this thread off track - it wasn't my intention (just me being pedantic).
Corrigan Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 So an airplane with an initial speed of 150 kts, traveling at 50 kts/h will be traveling at 200 kts after 1 hour of flight. You can't "travel at 50 kts/h". You can, however, be subject to an acceleration of 50 kts/h. ;) Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
mpdugas Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 So an airplane with an initial speed of 150 kts, traveling at 50 kts/h will be traveling at 200 kts after 1 hour of flight. nautical miles per hour per hour is a rate of acceleration, not constant speed... pedantically speaking.
Flagrum Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 nautical miles per hour per hour is a rate of acceleration, not constant speed... pedantically speaking. to raise the level of pedant..ic..ness (wtf? sp!?) a bit more: that is exactly what he was saying. He accellerates with 50 kts/h, i.e. from 150 kts to 200 kts within one hour. :o)
Bunyap Posted August 31, 2014 Author Posted August 31, 2014 As the OP of the Kph comment - I wished I hadn't brought it up as it has taken away from what is a fantastic series of videos and I apologise for getting this thread off track - it wasn't my intention (just me being pedantic). Don't sweat it. :) I work with three pilots and this is the kind of thing they talk about all day! Nothing you guys are saying is lost on me but "KPH" is an accepted variation and the only one that feels natural considering my background and the context of the videos. I have no doubt my meaning is understood and I believe I will stay with it... Somebody really needs to give you guys a MiG to fly. :smilewink:
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GorT Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 ... Somebody really needs to give you guys a MiG to fly. :smilewink: Maybe Bunyap would be so kind to put in a good word for us. Tell them we're being very good and having the Mig-21 would most likely keep us away from the Forums for a long time..... (30 min max) :megalol: You would be everyone's hero. ;) Don't ask me for advice on these Two Subjects: 1.. How to Take Off in the Dora! 2.. How to Land the Dora! UNLESS YOU WANT TO DIE!
mpdugas Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) to raise the level of pedant..ic..ness (wtf? sp!?) a bit more: that is exactly what he was saying. He accellerates with 50 kts/h, i.e. from 150 kts to 200 kts within one hour. :o) see Corrigan, supra. :thumbup: Edited August 31, 2014 by mpdugas
Alicatt Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Maybe Bunyap would be so kind to put in a good word for us. Tell them we're being very good and having the Mig-21 would most likely keep us away from the Forums for a long time..... (30 min max) :megalol: You would be everyone's hero. ;) Does the fuel last that long in the Mig? :music_whistling:;) Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron
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