Free upgrade to Windows 9 for Windows 8 users. What this mean for activations.

[Metal Hawk]

According to this article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2688652/m9icrosoft-indonesia-president-windows-9-will-be-free-to-windows-8-owners.html. Windows 9 will be free for Windows 8 users. If it actually end up being so, what does it mean for modules activations. Will we lose activations for every module we have? I really hope not. Windows 8 was a disaster. I don't want to find my self in a dilemma whether to stay with an OS I don't like and save activations or upgrade and, unnecessary, lose activations.

[tintifaxl]

Before you start the OS update, you deactivate each of the modules. After the update you activate them again -> no activasion lost.

[Metal Hawk]

But this way you lose a de-activation. I was hoping for something without a loss. Plus, the more modules someone have the more cumbersome it becomes. And the chances of forgetting to deactivate a module increase. I guess we have to wait and see.

[cichlidfan]

You don't have to wait and see. The answer has been available for years. Your OS is worth three points. :doh:

 

An activation will be required if the hardware/software changes exceed 12 points as

rated below:

• CPU ID: 13

• Windows PID: 3

• Computer Name: 3

• Hard drive volume serial number: 3

• MAC address: 6

• RAM amount: 6

If

 

If you don't want to lose anything then don't change anything on your computer.

[Metal Hawk]

WOW! What a rude attitude. Do I really have to know everything? With so many posts from people having trouble and loosing activations, is really a question like this not permitted and deserves a rude response? Should I apologize for being cautious?

 

You don't have to wait and see. The answer has been available for years. Your OS is worth three points.

If you don't want to lose anything then don't change anything on your computer.

If there is a possibility to upgrade my os and not lose activations who are you to deprive me from that right?

[tarracta]

How I hate this hardware-based activations, this is definitely a security policy out of the last century!!!! :mad: Comes directly next to malware-installers like Starforce...

 

Today you offer a user portal (like Battle.net or Steam) and every user adds bought products to his account and can use them, no matter which hardware he currently has got.

 

Countless poeple have multiple PC's, are hardware geeks which are happy to change components very frequently and with this copy protection directly out of the stoneage I've always trouble with this games - and refuse to buy them.

 

Sadly, DCS uses this antiquated methods which don't comply the needs of the present, too. Blizzard & Co are showing how it works.

Edited September 29, 2014 by tarracta

[G00dnight]

@ tarracta

so you refuse to buy them, if so you don't have any DCS modules, So what are you doing here ?..

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

what i personally dont really understand is, why so many people are concerned about their activations?

if you have used all 10 of a module, it will generate 1each month anyway...how often do guys really change something on their hardware or os?

[tarracta]

@ tarracta

so you refuse to buy them, if so you don't have any DCS modules, So what are you doing here ?..

 

1) Because I cannot give it up :P

 

2) At least there is a time limit until activations refreshes

 

But this is big exception, I have dozen of games which could be activated 3 times and then it's over forever. For that this business practice is damnable in general.

 

I buy a game and on which hardware I want to use it is not the business of the game manufacturer.

[EtherealN]

Windows 8 was a disaster.

 

But Windows 8.2 will be awesome. ;)

[hansangb]

NO, windows 9 will be awesome because it's an odd number release. :)

 

DOS 5 - great. 6, no so much.

95 - good. 98, not so much

Win 7 good, 8, no so much.

 

The only exception would be - for me - Windows 2000. That wasn't too bad, if I'm honest.

[EtherealN]

What I was poking fun at was that both 7 and 9 are just renamed "service packs" of the thing people hated. :P

[SkateZilla]

i guess that $30 windows 8 license i bought a while back may be worth it after all.

 

I never installed 8 on my machine due to compatibility issues with some of my stuff.

[xaoslaad]

what i personally dont really understand is, why so many people are concerned about their activations?

if you have used all 10 of a module, it will generate 1each month anyway...how often do guys really change something on their hardware or os?

 

Right, so being a flight sim hobbyist (or any game for that matter) should preclude you from being an OS and/or computing hobbyist? Should I really want or have to have two computers to muck around with my systems innards on a more frequent than average basis or repartition or install new hard drives to check out other operating systems? Virtualization makes a lot of that easier these days, but there are still reasons for wanting to mess around, including just simple learning. Starforce assumes you're Joe user who can barely turn on his computer.

[Soulres]

keep windows 7. Computers are not Iphones, just because it is newer,doesnt mean you should A) get it B) asume its better.

[EtherealN]

keep windows 7. Computers are not Iphones, just because it is newer,doesnt mean you should A) get it B) asume its better.

 

You do realize that Windows 9 (previously known as 8.2) is an actual desktop OS, right? Full (and customizable) start menu, boots into desktop, etc etc.

 

8.0 was annoying.

8.1 solved the worst bits.

8.2 (now called 9) solves the rest and gives us a proper desktop OS with all the under-the-hood improvements we liked in 8.

[tintifaxl]

But this way you lose a de-activation. I was hoping for something without a loss. Plus, the more modules someone have the more cumbersome it becomes. And the chances of forgetting to deactivate a module increase. I guess we have to wait and see.

 

De-activations are limitless. You can activate and deactivate a module all day long if you like. If you don't screw up, you'll have the same number of activasions left as when you started.

[cichlidfan]

De-activations are limitless. You can activate and deactivate a module all day long if you like. If you don't screw up, you'll have the same number of activasions left as when you started.

 

 

Excuse me!!

 

From the Quick Start Guide.

 

Each game license (disk) has 10 activations and 10 deactivations. You can activate

your game up to 10 times. The number of installations is unlimited!

[HiJack]

Windows 7 rules :D

[SkateZilla]

official name annouced:

Windows 10

[Corrigan]

Makes sense...

[Alicatt]

 

I never installed 8 on my machine due to compatibility issues with some of my stuff.

 

Same here, touch screen tablet laptop and win8/8.1 doesn't have drivers that work with it properly so sticking with Win7 64

 

10 is the new 8.2 ;)

[Buckeye]

If Windows 9 is an upgrade, then there is no reason to reinstall anything, you will simply upgrade over the top of your current Windows 8.1 and away you go.

 

Well at least in theory it should work :)

 

I hope so. I really don't want to do a clean install, such a pain in the ass.

[cichlidfan]

If Windows 9 is an upgrade, then there is no reason to reinstall anything, you will simply upgrade over the top of your current Windows 8.1 and away you go.

 

I am not saying it would not work but you could not pay me to install a new OS on top of an old one. If you aren't willing to do a clean install, then don't upgrade.

[SkateZilla]

My opinion if Windows 8 is that it has some significant improvements compared to Windows 7, however the UI and O/S as a whole felt rushed.

(prolly because they rushed it to get Surface Pros on the Market.)

 

Windows 10 is likely what Windows 8 was supposed to be.