Slipp Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Hello. How do you activate the IR pointer on the TGP? I have my TGP and NVG's on, Laser Arm is on, IR is selected on the TGP screen and P is displayed by the reticle. But when I look outside I can't see the IR pointer. What am I missing? Thanks for help. :)
baltic_dragon Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 If I remember correctly, you should use it exactly the same way as a laser, i.e. you have to press the Nosewheel Button... never done that, but I guess that's it. For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Corvus Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 You have to fire it- press "insert" or front wheel steering/lase button on joystick. 1 My YT channel https://www.youtube.com/user/corvuscorp81
Slipp Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 Worked like a charm. Thank you for helping.
davos Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Im pretty sure you can set the laser to latch on so you dont need to hold the button
StandingCow Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Yep, you can set it up on the profile screen (or was it inventory?) for the weapon... set it to auto laser on, then laser time to like 7. Edited December 4, 2014 by StandingCow 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo
RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Just an FYI. The laser time set to 10 is a standard for all laser brevity designations. 10 seconds is necessary for the laser seeker head to find and track the laser energy as it spills off the target. Longer than ten seconds and you risk having a LGB model (bang-bang) jinking too much in the air to make sure it gets to the laser and will fall short of the laser because it can bleed all its energy quickly. Enjoy. 63 My CAS (Close air support) JTAC Channel: RIFLE - YouTube RIFLE's Discord: https://discord.gg/cmDCrr4Z2g Publications JTAC Bible (see/know chapter #5) https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_09_3.pdf J-FIRE pocket guide (Don't do battle without it!) BK2 (fas.org)
StandingCow Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Just an FYI. The laser time set to 10 is a standard for all laser brevity designations. 10 seconds is necessary for the laser seeker head to find and track the laser energy as it spills off the target. Longer than ten seconds and you risk having a LGB model (bang-bang) jinking too much in the air to make sure it gets to the laser and will fall short of the laser because it can bleed all its energy quickly. Enjoy. 63 Learn something new every day. :D Thanks! 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo
Hansolo Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Just an FYI. The laser time set to 10 is a standard for all laser brevity designations. Are you referring to the Brevity "10 SECONDS"? As far as I know this is a informative call telling reciever that you will call "LASER ON" in app. 10 seconds. Cheers Hans Edited December 4, 2014 by Hansolo 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album
RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Hma. "Laser on" is a informative call by brevity. How ever when using a gbu weapon paveway2 in remarks i wod drop to the pilot " all standard laser brevity applies. And maybe I didnt get it but the pilot would call "laser on". The jtac would call " lasing 1688 " for example. 63 My CAS (Close air support) JTAC Channel: RIFLE - YouTube RIFLE's Discord: https://discord.gg/cmDCrr4Z2g Publications JTAC Bible (see/know chapter #5) https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_09_3.pdf J-FIRE pocket guide (Don't do battle without it!) BK2 (fas.org)
escaner Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 What is the IR pointer used for in game? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
JayPee Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Are you referring to the Brevity "10 SECONDS"? As far as I know this is a informative call telling reciever that you will call "LASER ON" in app. 10 seconds. Cheers HansThis. i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
whitehot Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 In DCS World you can use it to share targets between Combined Arms / Huey / A-10. Anyone with NVGs will see the green line and be able to either 'match sparkle' or fly to it. It's great fun. if I remember correctly, nvg equipped enemies will spot the ir point / laser beam as well, right? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i7 6700K @ 4.2, MSI M5 Z170A Gaming, NZXT X61 Kraken liquid cooler, PNY Nvidia GTX 1080 Founders Edition, 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 Mhz C15, samsung 840 evo SSD, CoolerMaster 1000W Gold rated PSU, NZXT Noctis 450 cabinet, Samsung S240SW 24' 1920x1200 LED panel, X-52 Pro Flight stick. W10 Pro x64 1809, NO antivirus EVER
JayPee Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 if I remember correctly, nvg equipped enemies will spot the ir point / laser beam as well, right? Yes. There is no such thing as an IR freq/code for the IR beam which only makes it visible to certain NVGs tuned to that freq/code. Atleast not in DCS. i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
Lt.Seahawk Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 There are night vision goggles without an IR function though, some NVGs have an IR Mode that you have to switch on to see IR ( Laser Beams, IR Light f.e). DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w
Wrecking Crew Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Note: The Pointer is not the Laser. :) Visit the Hollo Pointe DCS World server -- an open server with a variety of COOP & H2H missions including Combined Arms. All released missions are available for free download, modification and public hosting, from my Wrecking Crew Projects site.
RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 IR pointer and the "laser to designate" are both lasers. They "light amplify". Dont think I spelt that right. With that said as DCS becomes cooler on MP you guys are right. Anyone with NVG can see much of the IR spectrum. However such devices do exist for air and ground forces to pick up a "laser designation" on a code. That would be on my list of toys from DCS so that ground forces by day and night could see the laser on target and have a very slim chance of the enemy force seeing it as well. I would not use code 1688. Its pretty popular. 63 My CAS (Close air support) JTAC Channel: RIFLE - YouTube RIFLE's Discord: https://discord.gg/cmDCrr4Z2g Publications JTAC Bible (see/know chapter #5) https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_09_3.pdf J-FIRE pocket guide (Don't do battle without it!) BK2 (fas.org)
PFunk1606688187 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 For the purposes of brevity in practice Laser means the thing that paints a target for guidance. Pointer means the laser pointer that'll get the 40 foot cat tromping through downtown Baghdad to go nuts. Warning: Nothing I say is automatically correct, even if I think it is.
rcjonessnp175 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 It's called laser and light decipline gentlemen. Currently in multiple theaters their are android phones made in China that can pick up all IR emissions. Aka ir spot and ir pointer capabilities. Nowadays only time that stuff comes on is when you pull the trigger or drop a bomb. Biggest confusion I see in the dcs world ranks is people assuming an Ir pointer can provide guidance to ordnance just like the laser Designator. Well obviously it can't but is a very useful tool for night operations both ground and air. I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
Stewart Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 It's called laser and light decipline gentlemen. Currently in multiple theaters their are android phones made in China that can pick up all IR emissions. Aka ir spot and ir pointer capabilities. Nowadays only time that stuff comes on is when you pull the trigger or drop a bomb. Biggest confusion I see in the dcs world ranks is people assuming an Ir pointer can provide guidance to ordnance just like the laser Designator. Well obviously it can't but is a very useful tool for night operations both ground and air. Actually you can set it to both on the TGP so you can IR point and bomb a target at the same time. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
rcjonessnp175 Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 Yes you can but the ir pointer has nothing to do with weapon guidance. It's just a visual reference tool. I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
Wrecking Crew Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 If we go around saying things like "see the laser on target" then people will get confused; IMHO, of course. We can only "see" the Pointer, and that with NVGs. WC Visit the Hollo Pointe DCS World server -- an open server with a variety of COOP & H2H missions including Combined Arms. All released missions are available for free download, modification and public hosting, from my Wrecking Crew Projects site.
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