DCS: F-14A/A+/B by Heatblur Simulations coming to DCS World!

[RabidRider]

People pay $90 for the PMDG 777, and thats before you consider the -300 expansion. Its not unreasonable I don't think and its gonna sell no matter what.

 

I mean lets look at this. We're a niche community. We pony up insane cash for peripherals. People buy $500 joysticks just to fly the A-10C that hasn't cost $60 in a long time. I've personally put hundreds of hours into that plane alone.

 

How many people are going to fly the Tomcat basically every week for the foreseeable future? Lets say every week for a year. 90/52= $1.73 a week for your jollies. Oh man what a rip off. :music_whistling:

 

Besides, I want them to charge me $90 for it. That means it'll be special, they'll be saying "This one is different, its the best anyone has ever seen in DCS" and they'll have to make sure its true. If its just another $50 module why should I expect something epic? All the other stuff coming out at that price has basically no avionics in it.

 

+1

[Kaktus29]

look at it this way.. ppl go out watch a movie, go for a drink, grab some fast food, ..such a night of 3-5 hour entertainment cost about 100 bucks easy.. unless you watch a ripped movie in a car and eat home made pasta of course))

 

of course social life has its benefits, going out means meeting new ppl, date, etc.. which has value in itself regardless of money spent.. but still, "movie" nights can be changed into gallery night, and save the movie money for flight sim..

 

i put 10 euros per month aside every month as a rule for flight sim.. if i buy anything or don't i do it.. over the year i see that amount of models pumped out from DCS is less than the budget i allocate for it, so i could if i wanted to purchased every module i wanted.. and that is 10 euros per month.. its really not that much, but discipline, budgeting your expenditure for other things is a must..

 

look at computers, how long do we keep them alive and kicking before the hard disk slows down the whole thing, and the rig becomes too outdated? 2 yrs? 3 yrs? 5 yrs?.. i keep it 3 yrs if i can, if not 4 years at the latest.. meaning in 3-4 yrs i must get to the magical 1200 euros to replace my rig.. that means 33-25 € per month must be put aside.. much more than the DCS flight sims, putting in mind 10€ per month is actually way too much, you could put aside 3 € and still get by.. remember the fire-sales from time to time, be smart, wait your time, and of course this strategy works if you actually been putting money aside, if not it won't work in next 3 months if DCS puts something out )lol..u'll have to dish those 50-60$..

 

but for future situations this works great..its less stressful, i don't worry about it too much..

 

and also, i think modules are way too cheap, .. or should i say under-value, .. i have a feeling if US company would be making this modules it would un-ashamedly put a price tag 200$ and nobody would complain.. but that's the difference between US and RF.. RF company has to accept the insult and be happy it can sell high enough to cover the costs, let alone think of profit.. kinda sad really..

[Cobra847]

We haven't set our pricing or release policy in stone, but we're not leaning towards anything over what is fairly standard for both versions.

[shagrat]

For some, I think the saying "A fool and his money are soon parted".

The Problem is, if you would buy a trouser, skirts and other clothes for aboit 50cent, given you know the fabric alone usually costs more then $10 excluding labor, would you expect the shop selling it to survive?

Now imagine the shop is the only one to sell clothes, would you expect to ho naked, wrap yourself in paper or hope the man has a veeery good marketing strategy, so he survives and you can still buy clothes?

 

I don't WANT to pay more money than necessary for these companies to survive and go on producing quality sim modules. If necessary means $40 per module, fine with me. If it means $80 is necessary I would still consider it as fair.

 

Whatever the revenue per copy after all expenses is finally, they need to re-invest into the next project, also...

 

One viewpoint I came up with, long ago is the "bang for the bucks" or let's say "entertainment hours per product".

 

Compared to a Cinema ticket $15? With entertainment time of about 2hrs, a $60 DCS module like the A-10C is incredible!

 

Over 3 years I flew that module regularly 1-3 hrs a week minimum... Some math, 150 to 450 hrs!!!

 

That is 40cent per hour! ...and I'm not finished flying that plane, yet.

 

Cinema at $7.50 per hour is totally over prized, compared!

 

Yet, people go to the cinema and even buy movies for $20 plus...

 

It just helps to put things into perspective.

 

P.S. even with the PC and FlightSim hardware added to the calculation, DCS Flight simming beats watching movies :D

[Paradox]

We haven't set our pricing or release policy in stone, but we're not leaning towards anything over what is fairly standard for both versions.

 

Good. I can't understand these people baying to be ripped off.

[SkateZilla]

How will AAR work with the F-14? Will it be possible F-14 to F-14 AAR?

 

That's what the F-18s are for. :p :music_whistling:

[lunaticfringe]

*golf clap*

 

Coming soon to DCS World...

[GeorgeLKMT]

Wrong hornet ;)

[lunaticfringe]

*Every* Hornet is the wrong hornet.

 

(And that, folks, is how you double entendre.)

[captain_dalan]

*Every* Hornet is the wrong hornet.

 

(And that, folks, is how you double entendre.)

 

And then we wonder why those Hornet jocks hate us.... :megalol:

[Flycat]

What is the new cover photo on LNsim Facebook? Which part or component is it.

[mwd2]

That's what the F-18s are for. :p :music_whistling:

 

So we use the Hornet as Tanker and Striker?

[Sleksa]

What is the new cover photo on LNsim Facebook? Which part or component is it.

[ATTACH]114987[/ATTACH]

 

Looks like a helmet to me

[mwd2]

Looks like a helmet to me

 

It is

[OnlyforDCS]

We haven't set our pricing or release policy in stone, but we're not leaning towards anything over what is fairly standard for both versions.

 

Thanks for that Cobra. So I guess this means that both variants will be sold seperately?

[T_A]

Its a tomcat squadron

 

 

[Rangi]

Thanks for that Cobra. So I guess this means that both variants will be sold seperately?

 

That's not how i read it. I read it as standard price for both.

[rajdary]

Personally, i think the way it is right now is fine, 50$ is reasonable for most people compared to other entertainment software, but cheap in terms of bang for the buck or compared to the amount of money some of us end up spending in Hardware and inmersion gadgets!

But also some of us feel that the product should be supported and that 50$ per module, seems slightly low for the amount of Passion, Quality that are put into them and the fact that it fullfills a dream (taking into account that Combat Flight Simulation is a niche product), therefore the way to go is to simply support that developer, buying the rest of its modules, simply to support the one we like or buy more than 1 license to give away to someone.

In LNs case for me as i really want and dream on having an F14 in DCS, i will buy all their other modules to compensate for the fact that 50$ is way too cheap for the amount of hours that i will probably end up doing with it.

[Flagrum]

But also some of us feel that the product should be supported and that 50$ per module, seems slightly low for the amount of Passion, Quality that are put into them and the fact that it fullfills a dream (taking into account that Combat Flight Simulation is a niche product), (...)

I am one of those who say, a quality product with the amount of features like we expect from LNS and anticipate from what we (think) we already know, could easily be sold for substancial more than "the average DCS module". But according to some replies in this thread, not everyone is willing or able to afford such higher prices and I fully understand that.

 

But to expand perhaps the idea of "just to support" the devs for those who have "too much money", what about something like this:

- a regular price for such a comprehensive module, lets say 60 USD

- optional additional gimmicks for +10 or +20 USD = 70 or 80 USD for those who like and can support the devs more

 

And with gimmicks I mean perhaps just a nice set of stickers ... or ... dunno, just something that is relatively easy and cheap to produce, but which makes the whole thing somewhat unique.

[Flycat]

Dude, the price is based on what their owner's need. Some other creep ass-ass-in game company sold trash game on 100 usd and sold out over 20,000,000 copy last year. I think some of your guys had bought it already. This project is their job and income. If they set the price at 1000 usd, you can wait 90 or 95% off to add it into your cart. However there is another developer had been said it before. Why your guys focus on this topic, and have already discussed this for many pages. It's really boring and sightless. They are really kind and patient. Hope they can finish project without interference.

Edited March 16, 2015 by Flycat

[Dragunov]

The lower the cost the better. I think that applies on everything.

 

The obvious reason why people say that they would like to pay more than the usual price before they saw the finished product is because they want the highest possible quality. If the F-14 module would be 99,9% accurate I would gladly pay 500$ or even more. If I would know the accuracy is only 80% maybe I wouldnt even buy it. These values are only examples and I think in the end only the developers could roughly say how accurate it is.

 

For me the F-14 is the most iconic aircraft ever and the DCS F-14 module is by far the most anticipated software I could imagine. What makes it even more special is the fact that it is a carrier based aircraft. Imagine the possibilities you get with this module if the carrier operations are well implemented.

[Gargoil]

Well why not make a compromise: put a 100$ dollar regular price and make every month a 50% off sale. Those who can afford and want to pay 100$, let them. Those who can't will get a chance to buy it discounted. Alternatively, if you want to throw hundreds of dollars into a game, buy dozens of copies.

[King_Hrothgar]

To me the F-14 is just another plane. There is nothing even remotely special about it. Thus it's competing for my cash with every other DCS plane that may be released in the same time period as well as other CFS's and even totally unrelated games. I am certainly not alone in that. The higher the price, the fewer people will buy it. It's that simple and LNS knows it. Cobra has stated very clearly they aren't going to break from DCS pricing conventions. If you really want to pay $500 for it, no one is stopping you. Buy 10 copies and there is your $500 F-14 module. I'll consider paying $50 for it, but may wait for a sale if other more interesting planes/games are released in the first few months after release.

 

And to the person who spends $100 at the movies, I don't think I've ever spent more than $30 and that was for 2 people + a medium pizza + drinks. And that record setting price was only a few weeks ago, on a Saturday.

[Fake]

To me F-14 is a legend.you should read Iran-Iraq war history to find out what I Am saying (killing 3 Migs with 1 AIM-54A,engaging with 4 mirages and killing 1 One of them {3 other mirages ran away},etc).

the price should just like other DCS modules (30$-50%) I think.any idea about release time?

I CANT WAITE! :pilotfly:

[Greekbull]

This thread had gone way off track. Why are we even discussing price. There's no chance this is going to be a $500 or $100 module. It'll be just like any other module. As far as the significance of the F-14. It is easily more very popular than any other plane currently in the DCS world. So it will be purchased in mass...