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Technically not a Dora but an Anton. But yes only original flying FW-190 in the world. There are other but unfortunately are not air worthy.

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There are 3 Airworthy FW-190 currently i know off.

One With an Original BMW-801 shown in the Video off the first post.

 

 

Another in Germany with an Russian Ash-82 Engine (Nearly the same as the BMW-801)

 

 

Also one is flying in the USA with an P&W Engine.


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Just out of curiosity, if this is the only one, how does a pilot do a conversion to this?

What would the process entail?

 

Its usually a professional test pilot with many many MANY hours behind props and other high performance aircraft.

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Is it true that the above plane is the ONLY flying

dora in the world ??????:pilotfly:

 

I could have sworn Paul Allen (of Microsoft) has a flying-condition D-13 in Everett, WA. To the best of my knowledge, it has BEEN flown (to prove it can), but is not STILL flown (because it's too rare to risk destroying)

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I could have sworn Paul Allen (of Microsoft) has a flying-condition D-13 in Everett, WA. To the best of my knowledge, it has BEEN flown (to prove it can), but is not STILL flown (because it's too rare to risk destroying)

 

I don't think FHC Dora was flown, at least never read about it doing so. Certainly couldn't do it after the first, half-a$$ed, '70 restoration, while the second early 2000s one was already made with intention of bringing the plane to factory spec, but not to fly it.

 

Even if it wasn't such a rare bird, it's been years since the last ground engine runs were done, so bringing it up to actual flying condition would require some double-checks and overhaul of many systems. I'd say it falls into kinda-flyable-but-not-quite category.

 

There's still hope for flying D-9s though. Sort of. Lets wait and see what comes out of a few Allison-powered Flugwerk replicas being worked on.


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I think, but am not sure, there are two Doras left in the world.

 

One is with the Champlin Fighter Museum in Arizona the other is with the Smithsonian.

 

Both are D-12s. Until a few years ago, they had swapped wings. Champlin's starts theirs but I don't know if it is in flying condition or if only the engine is in working order.

 

Like I said..........I think.

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I could have sworn Paul Allen (of Microsoft) has a flying-condition D-13 in Everett, WA. To the best of my knowledge, it has BEEN flown (to prove it can), but is not STILL flown (because it's too rare to risk destroying)

 

You are correct, same place as the A from the OP. They dont fly the D-13 because of how rare it is.

 

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I could have sworn Paul Allen (of Microsoft) has a flying-condition D-13 in Everett, WA. To the best of my knowledge, it has BEEN flown (to prove it can), but is not STILL flown (because it's too rare to risk destroying)

 

Restored close to flying condition but never flown because of how rare it is.

 

A-5 in the original video not a Dora but maybe one day we will see one in the air ... replica or not. I'd love to see one of the 3rd parties make an A-3 or A-4 for some mid war engagements as more planes come online.

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There are 3 Airworthy FW-190 currently i know off.

One With an Original BMW-801 shown in the Video off the first post.

I think Flugwerk made at first 5 of them, then more were ordered and I don't remember how much they built but finally some 8-9 I think. All of them are new ones, or ""restored"" remains (very few remains really) using the Flugwerk conversion to Chinese engine HS-7, a modern license build Shvetsov Ash-82. The model is called Fw-190A-8/N (N for "neubau", newly build) and got Werk nummern following last 190 built during WWII. But still they are newly build aircraft even though following blueprints, and they lacks some details, tanks sealing (so bigger tanks and more endurance), armor so they are lighter, and so that kind of things including a modern cockpit layout and systems.

 

The only real restored and with BMW801 engine flying in the world is FHC one.

 

 

No Doras, but AFAIK Flugwerk also planned a Dora build years ago, sadly no news yet of them airworthy. And of course it used a spare engine, may be Allison.

 

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I think Flugwerk made at first 5 of them, then more were ordered and I don't remember how much they built but finally some 8-9 I think. All of them are new ones, or ""restored"" remains (very few remains really) using the Flugwerk conversion to Chinese engine HS-7, a modern license build Shvetsov Ash-82. The model is called Fw-190A-8/N (N for "neubau", newly build) and got Werk nummern following last 190 built during WWII. But still they are newly build aircraft even though following blueprints, and they lacks some details, tanks sealing (so bigger tanks and more endurance), armor so they are lighter, and so that kind of things including a modern cockpit layout and systems.

 

The only real restored and with BMW801 engine flying in the world is FHC one.

 

 

No Doras, but AFAIK Flugwerk also planned a Dora build years ago, sadly no news yet of them airworthy. And of course it used a spare engine, may be Allison.

 

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They did build 20 FW 190-A/N kits, 16 are delivered, 2 of them are still at Flugwerk for spareparts and another 2 are still not finished. 3 of them are on static display in Museums or collections.


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They did build 20 FW 190-A/N kits, 16 are delivered, 2 of them are still at Flugwerk for spareparts and another 2 are still not finished. 3 of them are on static display in Museums or collections.
20!! Glad to hear that :thumbup:. I haven't had a chance yet to see one of them flying.

 

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Absolutely awesome thread ... never was really into German WWII machines but those videos are very nice! Thank you!

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