BackboneOne Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 for some reasons second pilot's maximum zoom level is lesser than commander's any ideas what file is responsible for that and how should i fix that? 1 MB: Asus ROG Strix Z390-E \ CPU: i9-9900K NZXT Kraken X52\ DDR4: 3000MHz G.SKILL Trident Z Royal 32Gb RAM \ VID: MSI Nvidia RTX4070 12GB \ MON: Samsung ue49ks8000 49'', Lilliput 8'' x2 CNTRL: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog \ Saitek Combat Rudder pedals \ TrackIR 5 \ Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Pack
ebabil Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 i think you use trackir. when i use trackir , zoom is limited with gunner. no matter pause or not FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
BackboneOne Posted July 3, 2015 Author Posted July 3, 2015 i think you use trackir. when i use trackir , zoom is limited with gunner. no matter pause or not that is correct! but does anyone knows the reason of it? :dunno: any knowledge will be great MB: Asus ROG Strix Z390-E \ CPU: i9-9900K NZXT Kraken X52\ DDR4: 3000MHz G.SKILL Trident Z Royal 32Gb RAM \ VID: MSI Nvidia RTX4070 12GB \ MON: Samsung ue49ks8000 49'', Lilliput 8'' x2 CNTRL: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog \ Saitek Combat Rudder pedals \ TrackIR 5 \ Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Pack
ebabil Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 i think it is either trackir limitation or a bug. if you start game without firing trackir up, you can get hell of a zoom. that is odd for sure FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
BackboneOne Posted July 4, 2015 Author Posted July 4, 2015 i think it is either trackir limitation or a bug. if you start game without firing trackir up, you can get hell of a zoom. that is odd for sure its not! i have just started uh-1h without trackir fired and second pilot (operator) got the same zoom issue MB: Asus ROG Strix Z390-E \ CPU: i9-9900K NZXT Kraken X52\ DDR4: 3000MHz G.SKILL Trident Z Royal 32Gb RAM \ VID: MSI Nvidia RTX4070 12GB \ MON: Samsung ue49ks8000 49'', Lilliput 8'' x2 CNTRL: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog \ Saitek Combat Rudder pedals \ TrackIR 5 \ Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Pack
Zimmerdylan Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Yes...I don't have track IR and my co pilot does not zoom as far as pilot.
zaelu Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 It's views.lua from \DCS World\Mods\aircraft\Uh-1H line 26 some notes on that. The FOV limits are more restrictive to Co-Pilot because he has the FlexiSight in front of him. This limitation to just 60° instead of usual 20° is to avoid clipping with that FlexiSight. It also have limitation to 6DoF travel a bit lower that line. Here is my file (modded) but you can see I had preserved that 60° limit. But if you fly slick exclusive I think you can put same values as in Pilot seat. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
BackboneOne Posted July 17, 2015 Author Posted July 17, 2015 It's views.lua from \DCS World\Mods\aircraft\Uh-1H line 26 some notes on that. The FOV limits are more restrictive to Co-Pilot because he has the FlexiSight in front of him. This limitation to just 60° instead of usual 20° is to avoid clipping with that FlexiSight. It also have limitation to 6DoF travel a bit lower that line. Here is my file (modded) but you can see I had preserved that 60° limit. But if you fly slick exclusive I think you can put same values as in Pilot seat. thank you! tweaking this settings has completely solved my problem :thumbup: MB: Asus ROG Strix Z390-E \ CPU: i9-9900K NZXT Kraken X52\ DDR4: 3000MHz G.SKILL Trident Z Royal 32Gb RAM \ VID: MSI Nvidia RTX4070 12GB \ MON: Samsung ue49ks8000 49'', Lilliput 8'' x2 CNTRL: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog \ Saitek Combat Rudder pedals \ TrackIR 5 \ Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Pack
EcosseFlyer Posted April 2, 2022 Posted April 2, 2022 Hi Just noticed (again very minor) but i have TM Warthog throttle slider to Zoom View in settings, with Curve and Sauration etc all set up. However, the amount of forward zoom from Pilot seat (1) to Co-Pilot seat (2) is different - It essentially doesnt zoom as far when in the Co-Pilot seat, and no control settings were changed. Not that important but I have noticed it when swapping positions 2 Wookie My Rig: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D@~4.5GHz+ || MSI x470 Gaming Plus Max || MSI RTX 3070 SUPRIM || 32GB Corsair Vengance DDR4 RAM@3200 || 27" Quads || Win 10 Home || TM Warthog HOTAS || Logitech ProFlight Pedals || TrackHat Clip / Declan Camera || Rift S Modules: A-10C & A-10C II || KA-50 2 & 3 || FC3 || CA || UH-1H || AV-8B || L-39 || F-86F || F-5 II || Mi-8 || M-2000C || F/A-18 || SA-342 || Super Carrier || F-14A/B || AH-64D Maps: Caucasus || NTTR || Persian Gulf || Marianas || Syria
Baldrick33 Posted April 2, 2022 Posted April 2, 2022 Just one thought, have you set up identical curve and saturation settings for axis in both pilot and CPG control settings? AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
EcosseFlyer Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 Bit confused, what section is CPG in? As far as I can see there is only one Zoom View setting within Axis Assign and Axis Tune? Wookie My Rig: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D@~4.5GHz+ || MSI x470 Gaming Plus Max || MSI RTX 3070 SUPRIM || 32GB Corsair Vengance DDR4 RAM@3200 || 27" Quads || Win 10 Home || TM Warthog HOTAS || Logitech ProFlight Pedals || TrackHat Clip / Declan Camera || Rift S Modules: A-10C & A-10C II || KA-50 2 & 3 || FC3 || CA || UH-1H || AV-8B || L-39 || F-86F || F-5 II || Mi-8 || M-2000C || F/A-18 || SA-342 || Super Carrier || F-14A/B || AH-64D Maps: Caucasus || NTTR || Persian Gulf || Marianas || Syria
Baldrick33 Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 The CPG has its own section of controls in the controls drop down top left, including its own axis settings AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
EcosseFlyer Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 Thats the Apache, this is for the Huey, which doesnt have those options Wookie My Rig: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D@~4.5GHz+ || MSI x470 Gaming Plus Max || MSI RTX 3070 SUPRIM || 32GB Corsair Vengance DDR4 RAM@3200 || 27" Quads || Win 10 Home || TM Warthog HOTAS || Logitech ProFlight Pedals || TrackHat Clip / Declan Camera || Rift S Modules: A-10C & A-10C II || KA-50 2 & 3 || FC3 || CA || UH-1H || AV-8B || L-39 || F-86F || F-5 II || Mi-8 || M-2000C || F/A-18 || SA-342 || Super Carrier || F-14A/B || AH-64D Maps: Caucasus || NTTR || Persian Gulf || Marianas || Syria
Baldrick33 Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 My apologies I was reading the forum using unread posts and assumed this was another Apache Pilot/CPG controller post! AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
EcosseFlyer Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 No worries, i did wonder, thinking id missed something glaringly obvious in settings Wookie My Rig: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D@~4.5GHz+ || MSI x470 Gaming Plus Max || MSI RTX 3070 SUPRIM || 32GB Corsair Vengance DDR4 RAM@3200 || 27" Quads || Win 10 Home || TM Warthog HOTAS || Logitech ProFlight Pedals || TrackHat Clip / Declan Camera || Rift S Modules: A-10C & A-10C II || KA-50 2 & 3 || FC3 || CA || UH-1H || AV-8B || L-39 || F-86F || F-5 II || Mi-8 || M-2000C || F/A-18 || SA-342 || Super Carrier || F-14A/B || AH-64D Maps: Caucasus || NTTR || Persian Gulf || Marianas || Syria
Volator Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Funny to see that this problem is ten years old already, probably more, since the release of the Huey. I guess only a few people ever notice this because they never sit in the co-pilot's seat. I admit I rarely do, but the other day, trying out multicrew in the Huey after some years, the issue of the limited zoom and the limited degree of movement became painfully aware to me again. I have to try the suggested .lua modification, but I fear it will break integrity check, won't it? @Flappie Would you put an adjusted zoom and more 6DoF room on the very, very, very long list of requested Huey improvements for the devs? 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven
Volator Posted April 17 Posted April 17 A forum search showed there has even been a request to change this in 2015! How time flies... These threads could be merged and the issue put forward to the ED devs. 1 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven
Flappie Posted April 17 Posted April 17 This report is so old that I wasn't even aware of this issue (it looks like an issue to me). Reported. 2 2 ---
virgo47 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 I noticed this - and I thought how smart I am to override this in Saved Games\...\Config\View\Server.lua. And then I came to HB Coldwar server and all these customizations were back to original limits. Yeah, second pilot is seriously short-sighted. 1 L-39, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F/A-18C, MiG-15, F-86F, AJS-37, C-101, FC2024 Yak-52, P-47, Spitfire, CE2 UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50 III, SA342 NTTR, PG, SY, Chnl, Norm2, Kola, DE Supercarrier, NS430, WWII, CA VKB STECS+Gladiator/Kosmosima+TPR DCS Unscripted YouTube "Favourite" bugs: 1) Object local camera fast/slow inverted, 2) Yak-52 toggles not toggling, 3) all Caucasus ATC bugs
Zimmerdylan Posted May 2 Posted May 2 On 4/17/2025 at 1:02 AM, Volator said: A forum search showed there has even been a request to change this in 2015! How time flies... These threads could be merged and the issue put forward to the ED devs. Exactly why DCS gets 0 business from me any more. This is not an isolated thing. There are so many things that were promised over the years, so many little issues that have never been addressed......Yet they re-issue the F-5 , A-10 and want more money.........I understand that the contract we sign upon purchase says that we have no say in what happens, that we are just users of the property of DCS. I get it. I'm not complaining about that. I'm just stating a fact, and how I deal with it. No progress or completion on their part, no more money on my part. It's just that simple. 3
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