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I'm looking to get some sort of head tracking device.

 

I'm stuck on whether I should invest in Track IR or pay a fraction of the cost for ED Tracker. If I you think I should get ED Tracker should I get the pre-made model or make it myself?

 

Just leave reason why I should get either one below. Also, as I understand it, the only difference between the two is not being able to zoom with the ED Tracker. Is this right?

 

 

p.s. I am not interested in FaceTrackNoIR or any other web cam based tracker.

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Posted (edited)

TIR provides full 6DOF and works out of the box with most any flight or racing sim, along with a number of other games/sims.

Edited by cichlidfan

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I agree with taking the TIR5.

It is more expensive, but works out of the box.

 

And it has 6DOF versus 3DOF on ED tracker.

The 3 extra DOF gives a more natural head movement in game, and thus much better immersion.

 

Instead of the Pro Clip, I would recommend an alternative like DelanClip:

http://www.delanengineering.com/

 

It is made in metal, and both much more solid and much more accurate than the Pro Clip.

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Yep TrackIR 5. But don't buy the pro clip. This is realy fragile. See user reviews on youtube and on internet. Just use the cap. Marvelous...:pilotfly:

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Posted

https://github.com/opentrack/opentrack/releases

 

This is freeware and if you have web cam you can try it for free. Use face tracking. This days face tracking work good and you can even dedicated wanted core to it so will not effect on your game performance.

 

If you want something else similar to trackIR and to work out of the box than use than is better go there and buy clipsy bundle.

http://mansloth.com/?page=clipsibundle

It is 1/3 cost of trackIR and work the same. TrackIR is overrated and overpriced.

Posted
https://github.com/opentrack/opentrack/releases

 

This is freeware and if you have web cam you can try it for free. ...

 

p.s. I am not interested in FaceTrackNoIR or any other web cam based tracker.

 

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The Proclip, itself, is a completely separate discussion. Building your own or buying something else, like a Delanclip, is definitely a viable option.

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I preferred the EDTracker over my TrackIR 3 with vector clip. The latest 'pro' version of the EDTracker is supposed to be even better at eliminating drift in the device which wasn't that much of an issue with my DIY early version. They are apparently working on a wireless version too. The problem I had with the TrackIR was it seemed to get easily confused if not positioned at optimal distance and angle but because it doesn't rely on a camera the EDTracker kept position of my view much better.

Posted (edited)
In CloD the guy achieve some degree of "6DOF" setting the translation movement:

 

 

Result at 9:25

 

This is brilliant ! I'm gonna add this to my settings right away !

 

Another aspect of EDTracker is it's refresh rate.. it's way snappier than trackir for me =)

Edited by BlackSharkAce
Posted
In CloD the guy achieve some degree of "6DOF" setting the translation movement:

 

 

Result at 9:25

 

 

 

 

 

Excellent work in the DCS.

 

Thanks for the link.

Posted
I am not interested in FaceTrackNoIR or any other web cam based tracker.

 

TrackIR IS A webcam based tracker. There is no IMU in the headset or any other kind of magic. TrackIR is just optical tracking of dots using a camera that is basically a web cam.

 

TrackIR is a good package but it is a little over-priced.

Posted

Calling TrackIR a "webcam" is pretty silly. It has no normal visible light spectrum camera and lens apparatus that a "webcam" has.

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Posted

I want to order the TrackIR 5 but i'm not sure about Proclip

What would you recommend, guys ?

I want to use it with my headsets, no hat.

Thank you

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Posted

brilliant if you get the track clip pro, ( fits to the side of your headset) you will never look back; Actually you can. Sorry bout the pun, lol

Posted
I want to order the TrackIR 5 but i'm not sure about Proclip

What would you recommend, guys ?

I want to use it with my headsets, no hat.

Thank you

 

Yes, but isnt the track clip pro a very cheap plastic product ???

Im confused now with track clip pro / Proclip ....

Do you mean this one ??

http://www.shop.aerosoft.com/eshop.php?action=article_detail&s_supplier_aid=13128

 

Yes, the Pro Clip is not worth the money, sadly.

It's a fragile plastic thingy, and on mine the foam inside deformed, so that it could no longer fit firmly in my headset.

A thinner headset I could totally forget to fit it on.

 

I recommend the DelanClip, it is not too expensive and it is made in metal, so it is sturdy.

(for instance if you drop your headset, not that anyone would ever do that.. ;) )

 

Another thing I noticed is that the tracking gets much more solid with the DelanClip.

It is both more accurate and less susceptible to disturbance from sunlight than when using my Pro Clip.

 

I think it is due to the fact that the Pro Clip features small encapsuled red LEDs, while the DelanClip features stronger IR LEDs, with a wider view angle.

 

You can buy it here:

http://www.delanengineering.com/

System specs:

 

Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440)

Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use

 

Posted
EDTrack is on TrackIR3 category - a 3DOF device, not properly comparable to TrackIR5 (6DOF).

 

Basically you are missing zoom, lean and rotation movements.

 

Hey been using a Trackir3 for years with a "license activated 6dof".

Still does everything the ver5 does and works a treat in DCS2

Posted

I dont find DelanClip, in Germany

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Posted
I dont find DelanClip, in Germany

 

No, you have to buy it on their webpage.

http://www.delanengineering.com/shop/

System specs:

 

Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440)

Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use

 

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