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So what are your thoughts? It's an improvement for the WW2 birds in my opinion. I tried out normal, and then enlarged. You can see a transition from the icon to the regular 3d model and it is not always pretty, but now it is not so easy to loose a bandit in the ground clutter.

 

Maybe in the future the effect will get cleaned up a bit. For now I am content with the improvement. Thank you ED.

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What was wrong with the spotting before?

 

I HOPE your not trolling these poor fellows, but spotting in DCS could be very tough, its much better in EDGE, and the new options help it even more... I hope for more refinements as we go along, but its pretty good right now.

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Not trolling. Spotting airplanes in reality is very tough, it should be in the game. We give up some tactical options with unrealistic spotting settings.

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Not trolling. Spotting airplanes in reality is very tough, it should be in the game. We give up some tactical options with unrealistic spotting settings.

 

Even best 4k monitors are still way shitty if you compare those in your own eyes. :joystick:

 

 

Its much more "realistic" for now, not so blind pilots anymore. :thumbup:

 

 

In RL we have about 180" vision and still can see things very far. Not so in sim's until now :)

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Not trolling. Spotting airplanes in reality is very tough, it should be in the game. We give up some tactical options with unrealistic spotting settings.

 

NO, the spotting in DCS was unrealistically bad. Models turning invisible while you're looking right at them, and only being able to see some at all by zooming all the way in.

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I will check it out, I have not experienced the new spotting.

 

The spotting in DCS 1.0 very much reminded me of spotting traffic at work.

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I wish I could experience that. My PC is not good enough though :( I need to get a new one.

 

I am realy happy that change happened and that ED listened to the community. It will make WW2 air combat pleasant, my eyes won't hurt anymore (at least not so much :P) and I am sure it will all be fine in the end.

 

@Crump, either you have 3 monitors or a 4k monitor or just your eyesight needs to be checked :P

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What is the transition like between overlay and 3d model?

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@Crump, either you have 3 monitors or a 4k monitor or just your eyesight needs to be checked

 

No just one...

 

I am an Airline Pilot and have some experience spotting traffic.

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No just one...

 

I am an Airline Pilot and have some experience spotting traffic.

 

Then you should realise why it was unrealistic before. The relative arc of an aircraft on a 1920 by 1080 monitor was such that it became smaller then 1 pixel at a range that was far closer then what the human eye can in real life distinguish. This meant aircraft effectively disappeared or couldn't be seen manoeuvring when in reality the relative arc distance would mean that the human eye could see it. The new system compensates for this bringing a more realistic representation of what the human eye can do when it's not limited by a relatively low resolution.

 

I work with optics and have some experience of the limitations of the human eye.

 

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Please forgive my ignorance on this but, what exactly is this option called? How do I implement it?

 

I have bad vision and wear glasses made specifically for the PC. Even with these, I was unable to see what other guys on TeamSpeak clearly called out to me.

 

I'd love to get in the game as sharply as the rest.

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Please forgive my ignorance on this but, what exactly is this option called? How do I implement it?

 

I have bad vision and wear glasses made specifically for the PC. Even with these, I was unable to see what other guys on TeamSpeak clearly called out to me.

 

I'd love to get in the game as sharply as the rest.

 

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So, if model visibility is enlarged, it'll help me see better?

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Then you should realise why it was unrealistic before. The relative arc of an aircraft on a 1920 by 1080 monitor was such that it became smaller then 1 pixel at a range that was far closer then what the human eye can in real life distinguish. This meant aircraft effectively disappeared or couldn't be seen manoeuvring when in reality the relative arc distance would mean that the human eye could see it. The new system compensates for this bringing a more realistic representation of what the human eye can do when it's not limited by a relatively low resolution.

 

I work with optics and have some experience of the limitations of the human eye.

 

This has been discussed to death. Move on.

 

While it may or may not have been unrealistic in as far as the detail a human eye can perceive vs a pixel image on a computer....

 

The experience was very realistic in simulating spotting other aircraft in flight. You should have been on-board when the TCAS went off 2 weeks ago while we are looking for the ATC traffic alert because a cessna driver was at VFR altitude 500 Feet above on the arrival into Minneapolis.

 

I would have LOVED to have some large pixels and an easy spotting feature!

 

That is neither here nor there. I have not been able to get another aircraft online and use it. I did not mean to disparage this feature without trying it. I will try it and might even like it.

 

I just was surprised there was even an issue. :(

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Crumpp will you admit you would be at a disadvantage on a 15" monitor compared to a 28" at same resolution?

 

Real scale on a the current FoV would need something like a 50" monitor 3 feet away. For a realistic FOV and scale it requires a spherical screen and projectors...

 

I can easily see stuff taking off from heathrow while still 15 miles away... I doubt I could see anything of the same size in DCS at that sort of distance. I'll test later maybe!

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Crumpp will you admit you would be at a disadvantage on a 15" monitor compared to a 28" at same resolution?

 

 

Of course.

 

Watching airplanes on the ground and knowing exactly to where to look is not anything like trying to spot them in air.

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