Nedum Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hello! I have checked my controls and key bindings and all is good. The only thing that doesn't work is CRTL+Enter to show the axes. My Problem is that during the take of the plane suddenly goes all the way left. Full right rudder is without any effect and so I must use the wheel brake. Was it the side wind or did I miss something with my control settings? If it's the side wind... oh man.. some must give this bird better wheel friction! CPU: AMD Ryzen 7950X3D, System-RAM: 64 GB DDR5, GPU: nVidia 4090, Monitor: LG 38" 3840*1600, VR-HMD: Pimax Crystal, OS: Windows 11Pro, 2*2TB Samsung M.2 SSD, HOTAS: TM Warthog, Paddles: MfG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Crosswind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1279 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 yep difinitely crosswind [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I7 8700K @ 4.9 ghz, SSD 850 evo, MSI Z370 Gaming Pro, GTX 1080Ti, F/A-18C in the garage, F-16C in the backyard, F-14B in the garden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hello! I have checked my controls and key bindings and all is good. The only thing that doesn't work is CRTL+Enter to show the axes. My Problem is that during the take of the plane suddenly goes all the way left. Full right rudder is without any effect and so I must use the wheel brake. Was it the side wind or did I miss something with my control settings? If it's the side wind... oh man.. some must give this bird better wheel friction! Do you have a set of rudder pedals with toe brakes? RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armored_Sheep Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) I had same issue. It was fixed after I found that the braking axes on pedals have to be reversed. See how pedals are animated in cockpit. Edited December 26, 2015 by Armored_Sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redglyph Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Actually for me it's the only aircraft for which I don't have to invert the brake axes, with the Saitek Pro rudder pedals. System specs: Win7 x64 | CPU: i7-4770K | RAM: 16 GB | GPU: GTX 980 Ti 6 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS | MFG rudder pedals | SATA3 SSD | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowsniper Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Actually for me it's the only aircraft for which I don't have to invert the brake axes, with the Saitek Pro rudder pedals. you're right +1 i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Actually for me it's the only aircraft for which I don't have to invert the brake axes, with the Saitek Pro rudder pedals. This was my problem. I normally have to invert the axis on my toe brakes for all aircraft. For the Mirage I have to leave it on the default setting. By inverting the toe brake axis I was finding the aircraft would veer to the left during takeoff. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 When you takeoff a real plane you dont stay straight. Remember there are wind. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastfreddie Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Actually for me it's the only aircraft for which I don't have to invert the brake axes, with the Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Yep, messed me up having to go back and change it to original setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deezle Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I've found the M2000C to be VERY susceptible to crosswind on takeoff, even a slight breeze damn near pushes it all the way off the runway. My toe brakes are properly configured. No other plane in DCS is pushed around this badly on takeoff. Intel 9600K@4.9GHz, Asus Z390, 32GB DDR4, EVGA RTX 3070, Custom Water Cooling, 970 EVO 1TB NVMe 34" UltraWide 3440x1440 Curved Monitor, 21" Touch Screen MFD monitor, TIR5 My Pit Build, VKB Gunfighter Pro w/WH Grip, TMWH Throttle, MFG Crosswinds W/Combat Pedals, Cougar MFDs, Custom A-10C panels, Custom Helo Collective, SimShaker with Transducer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom453 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I've found the M2000C to be VERY susceptible to crosswind on takeoff, even a slight breeze damn near pushes it all the way off the runway. My toe brakes are properly configured. No other plane in DCS is pushed around this badly on takeoff. Agreed. Effect seems way over the top, like being in a small sail boat or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Burns Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Yeah surely it can't be crosswind? It blows me all the way into a building! That sort of wind would kick up a dust storm. I don't have pedals but you can trim the rudder, is it a trim issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedum Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 At first thanks to all of you. Toe brakes and all other stuff is working very well. Nothing special here. It's the side wind but it's a waaaaay overdone! I can't really believe that a fighter with a shape like a dart has more air drag as a Truck and less friction! I see all the day the planes landing in front of my office and I never ever did not see such a behavior, nor was it ever told to me. As long as your wheels touching the runway, there is not such a big slip as in the air. I think there is something wrong. I have this feeling since the first prop plane was out. The fish tail behavior because of side wind is a way overdone. The M2000C has the opposite effect because the "tail" wheel is now in front, if you know what I mean. ;) There are 3 wheels fixed at the ground, with a extreme high side friction and a like a dart shaped plane slips on the runway like on a ice track!? As said before a big truck with a long trailer would not behave like any plane in this game. The "funny" thing is; as soon as the plane is in the air, the slip is gone! How that? I think ED should overlook this ground behavior for all planes! CPU: AMD Ryzen 7950X3D, System-RAM: 64 GB DDR5, GPU: nVidia 4090, Monitor: LG 38" 3840*1600, VR-HMD: Pimax Crystal, OS: Windows 11Pro, 2*2TB Samsung M.2 SSD, HOTAS: TM Warthog, Paddles: MfG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikpen14 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I have run into the same situation as mentioned. It pulls to the left badly and I basically cannot keep it on the runway surface! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahlbeck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I have the same problem and I also feel the effect seems overdone. However, I found that it could be mitigated by activating nose wheel steering (kbd S or HOTAS) until the rudder gets enough authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourrinopathe Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) It's surprising for sure. I just flew the "Cold Start" instant mission and landed at Groom Lake. The ME shows a crosswind coming from 71° to the left at 4 m/s (rwy 32R). Nothing brutal, but when the nose wheel touched down the Mirage was pushed to the left so severely that I couldn't correct the trajectory with the rudder (without nose wheel steering). Unless I'm doing something wrong, I really don't understand that behavior. Otherwise: Really happy with my brand new hairdryer 2000… Edited December 27, 2015 by Bourrinopathe /// ВКБ: GF Pro MkII+MCG Pro/GF MkII+SCG L/Black Mamba MkIII/Gladiator/T-Rudder MkII | X-55 Rhino throttle/Saitek Throttle Quadrant | OpenTrack+UTC /// ZULU +4 /// /// "THE T3ASE": i9 9900K | 64 GB DDR4 | RTX 2080ti OC | 2 TB NVMe SSDs, 1 TB SATA SSD, 12 TB HDDs | Gigabyte DESIGNARE mobo /// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I believe that we warned you that the aircraft is very susceptible to steering during take-off/landings rolls. We still haven't been able to fix that in the EFM, but it is in our list. Just nudge the rudder, otherwise you will overcorrect and will end up going sideways or leaving the runway. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourrinopathe Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Thanks for the clarification, Zeus. :thumbup: /// ВКБ: GF Pro MkII+MCG Pro/GF MkII+SCG L/Black Mamba MkIII/Gladiator/T-Rudder MkII | X-55 Rhino throttle/Saitek Throttle Quadrant | OpenTrack+UTC /// ZULU +4 /// /// "THE T3ASE": i9 9900K | 64 GB DDR4 | RTX 2080ti OC | 2 TB NVMe SSDs, 1 TB SATA SSD, 12 TB HDDs | Gigabyte DESIGNARE mobo /// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikpen14 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Noticed it is only pulling left in 2.0, in 1.5 she sails down the runway beautifully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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