Prowler111 Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Even as is too early to actually start creating a Harrier devoted forum, i wanted to know what kind of Harrier you were craving for, so here is a poll questions is simple A: AV-8B Harrier II Night Attack B: GR7/9 Harrier
Paradox Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 I expect I'll be outvoted here but for me it's the GR9 all the way!
Gazza.Blake Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 I expect I'll be outvoted here but for me it's the GR9 all the way! Ditto Intel® i9 9900K Coffee Lake OC 5.1GHz, ASUS ROG Maximum Formula LGA1151 MB, Windows 10® 64bit Pro, 64GB 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, EVGA Black Edition 2080Ti OC GPU, 2 x Samsung Evo 970 NVMe 1TB Drives, 1 x Samsung Evo 860 2TB SSD, 1 x Seagate 2TB HDD, 1 x Acer™ Predator 35" 4K Wide Flat Monitor, TM Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind pedals, Oculus Rift S
void Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) I`ve voted the AV-8B,thats the only version I`m interested. Edited January 6, 2016 by void
Wizard_03 Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Gr9 all the way...more weapons DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
King_Hrothgar Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Voted AV-8B as it has seen more combat but I honestly don't care. Looking at wikipedia, it appears the differences between the two were mostly cosmetic (avionics and such).
whaaw Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) GR9A I need the extra power^^ Edited January 4, 2016 by whaaw SFMBE
Hummingbird Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 AV-8B because of the ability to mount a gun.
Gladman Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 AV-8B because I built plastic models of it as a kid :) i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
Bullfrog_ Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) I'll be happy with either, but the Av-8B nudges out the Gr. due too it getting an actual gun pod, and that makes up for a good chunk of fun in any sim. Even if it wasn't for that, I would still want the Av-8B because 1. Marine Corps 2. It would be awesome to fly with the F-18 and F-14. But I would honestly be happy with either. Edited January 5, 2016 by Bullfrog_
Vampyre Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 AV-8B because of the ability to mount a gun. GR7/9 because of two extra sidewinders on dedicated pylons mounted on stations 1A and 7A which also contain countermeasures dispensers. That and the ability to carry a targeting pod (TIALD, LITENING or SNIPER) and TERMA countermeasures pod on the stations 4A and 4B in place of the non existent gun's which also free up space on stations 3 and 5 for weapons carriage. Those would be far more valuable than 300 rounds of 25mm for the GAU-12. Stations 4A and 4B are far better positions for targeting pods than stations 3 and 5 on the AV-8B(NA) as they have a much larger field of view being mounted that low on the airframe. I voted GR7/GR9. my assumption being that RAZBAM will eventually do an AV-8B+ with the APG-65 in the future. Additionally, the choice of Harrier GR9 practically guarantees the inclusion of a targeting pod whereas the AV-8B Night Attack does not have that kind of guarantee as it spent the first half of its career without one. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
void Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 AV-8B because of the ability to mount a gun. No cannon, no fun. It has to be the AV-8B, then.
Warrior Nine Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) AV-8B hands down, and I finally broke down and got a forum account just to say it. At the risk of seeming too 'Merika-centric, the AV-8B is the most iconic jump jet in the world and the Night Attack variant offers a lot of outstanding opportunity for an amazing ground-attack aircraft. It wouldn't be the first night fighter in DCS, with the A10C offering enough onboard systems to fill that role just fine, but to me that proves that any extra armament on the GR9 would prove irrelevant when someone can just as easily use the Warthog in an online match. That would make the Harrier a forgettable and irrelevant addition to the DCS line-up, and would be a very poor choice on the part of RAZBAM marketing. Meanwhile, the AV-8's gun pod and VTOL capabilities (versus the GR7s mostly STOL takeoff) would make for a fun, interesting, and unique edition that people will be sure to purchase instead of just passing over it in favor of other ground-attack or multirole airframes. Bare in mind by the time the Harrier launches the Mirage 2000 will likely take the fore-front as the premier multi role airframe in DCS, making the GR9 irrelevant as a tactical fighter as well. The only future this module seems to have would be by embracing the gun pod, VTOL engagement, and the optics systems that would only be available in the AV-8B package. With the AV-8B, the Harrier will become an important team player in flights after the introduction of the F14 and F18 while remaining relevant in an online setting. Moreover, the AV8 can use in-game Naval assets that are already available by launching from American aircraft carriers instead of relying on the addition of new British naval assets that rely on the use of a ski-jump to launch fighters. Edited January 5, 2016 by Warrior Nine
Bullfrog_ Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I voted GR7/GR9. my assumption being that RAZBAM will eventually do an AV-8B+ with the APG-65 in the future. Additionally, the choice of Harrier GR9 practically guarantees the inclusion of a targeting pod whereas the AV-8B Night Attack does not have that kind of guarantee as it spent the first half of its career without one. It would be awesome if we got the GR.7/9 now and the Av-8B+ later, or the Av-8B(NA) now and the Sea Harrier later. I'm not sure if the Av-8B+ can carry HARMs but I know the Sea Harrier can carry ALARMS, would be awesome to have it for that alone.
hannibal Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 happy with any harrier version as well! find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
Home Fries Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I'm with the camp that wants the GR.7/9, so long as we get the AV-8B+ once the ground radar code is fleshed out. Sounds like a great way to have our cake and eat it too. -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide
Wizard_03 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) The GR9 is just better, No. 1 has to come with a TGP for it be authentic not really a way out of that. Unlike the F-14A/B with LN which could go either way. No. 2 equally awesome, It can carry more Also with the GR9 your able to load things in far more configurations then the AV-8B. No gun but, who cares..If you want some gun action use the A-10 Both of those reasons make it much more versatile then the AV-8B and I think that makes the GR 9 better i.e. it can do everything the AV-8B can and more. Edited January 5, 2016 by Wizard_03 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
QuiGon Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I would say you guys should make the variant of which you have more data and documentation for it. I'm happy with both, although I find the AV-8B a tad more appealing. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
terence44 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 GR7/GR9 for me ^^ [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic104172_5.gif[/sIGPIC] Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/terence44/
Cytt0rak Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Even if we dont get AV-8B I hope we will have it later.
Fox One Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 My vote depends on RAZBAM's answer to the question: what manuals do you have for GR7/GR9? My DCS videos
mattebubben Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 the AV-8B + would probably been the ultimate variant but would probably be alot harder to get info about. The AV-8B + has the same APG-65 Radar of the F-18 and is AIM-120 capable making it both much more effective air-air then the earlier strike harriers. But im probably leaning towards any of the AV-8B variants ahead of the GR-7-9s for the simple reason that the AV-8B has been produced in larger numbers and seen use with multiple nations (currently in use by the US, Spain And Italy. (AV-8B + is in use with all 3 though they all started with earlier AV-8B variants)
Regamuffin Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Harrier poll I'm British but the av8b as its more advanced but then it all comes down to how much razbam is going to model and such...... After reading further down looks like there av8b version won't contain half its stuff in that case I vote GR Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited January 5, 2016 by Regamuffin Reg:pilotfly:
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