The DCS Updater / Launcher GUI Utility Version 2.0 (2023+)

[imacken]

Looking good! Any idea when it will be available for download?

[SkateZilla]

6 minutes ago, imacken said:

Looking good! Any idea when it will be available for download?

Files are Attached to first post.

 

[imacken]

Got it! Wasn't there when I posted.

Testing now.

[imacken]

Looking good!  Issue with not loading presets etc. has been solved as has the backup folder being created in incorrect location.

Thanks for all your time and effort in producing this great improvement to the utility.

One question, is it possible to make it remember the last selected preset?  I keep forgetting to reslect.  V1 did this ok.

 

[SkateZilla]

4 minutes ago, imacken said:

Looking good!  Issue with not loading presets etc. has been solved as has the backup folder being created in incorrect location.

Thanks for all your time and effort in producing this great improvement to the utility.

One question, is it possible to make it remember the last selected preset?  I keep forgetting to reslect.  V1 did this ok.

 

In the future, but Its a bit trickier this time around so I have to be careful how I implement it.

[imacken]

Sorry, another question.  I selected backup in the Manage Config Folders section, the console says it was completed, but there is nothing in the Backup folder.  Is that where the backup should be?

 

Edited July 3, 2023 by imacken

[Lange_666]

"Maybe" found a bug (previous and latest just published version).

MT in VR is OpenXR only if i'm correct.
If i launch DCS in MT mode directly from the icon instead of through the updater with --force enable VR --force_Oculus added, it will always run OpenXR disregarding the " --force_Oculus" and i'm able to access the OpenXR toolkit. It doesn't when i run in ST.

However, If i chose Oculus as VR API in the updater app and if i select to launch in VR "with" Multi-Threading set to ON, i can't access OpenXR Toolkit which i guess means DCS is started in ST instead.

Edited July 3, 2023 by Lange_666

[speed-of-heat]

Yep that seems to work for me as well , thanks @SkateZilla

[SkateZilla]

33 minutes ago, imacken said:

Sorry, another question.  I selected backup in the Manage Config Folders section, the console says it was completed, but there is nothing in the Backup folder.  Is that where the backup should be?

 

 

I actually just found a null bug in those functions.

Originally,
Copy would to Copy from Source to Destination
Backup would backup in the same SG Folder so it would create a /Config_MMDDYYYY_HHMMSS/ Folder.
Delete would make a backup w/ Same format then Delete the /Config Folder.

But there's a null value so it's not copying folders correctly, if at all, I will have to fix that.
 

29 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

"Maybe" found a bug (previous and latest just published version).

MT in VR is OpenXR only if i'm correct.
If i launch DCS in MT mode directly from the icon instead of through the updater with --force enable VR and  --force_Oculus added, it will always run OpenXR disregarding the " --force_Oculus" and i'm able to access the OpenXR toolkit.

However, If i chose Oculus as VR API in the updater app and if i select to launch in VR "with" Multi-Threading set to ON, i can't access OpenXR Toolkit which i guess means DCS is started in ST instead.

Force Oculus Launches using Oculus Runtimes (no OpenXR).
Force OpenXR Launches using OpenXR Runtimes (OpenXR Menu should be visible)

The reason that command is launching w/ OpenXR for you is the Argument for Oculus is wrong, should be:
 

--force_oculus_VR

 

Edited July 3, 2023 by SkateZilla

[imacken]

25 minutes ago, imacken said:

Sorry, another question.  I selected backup in the Manage Config Folders section, the console says it was completed, but there is nothing in the Backup folder.  Is that where the backup should be?

 

 

Follow up to this, the backup using 'manage config folders' goes to my SG/DCS (Stable) folder no matter what I select as destination.   The backups in the section above that go to the correctly specified destination.  So, unless I'm misunderstanding the process, there is something wrong there. 

[SkateZilla]

5 minutes ago, imacken said:

Follow up to this, the backup using 'manage config folders' goes to my SG/DCS (Stable) folder no matter what I select as destination.   The backups in the section above that go to the correctly specified destination.  So, unless I'm misunderstanding the process, there is something wrong there. 

I was looking at the code,

as I said above, it's all sorts of honky due to null value error, so I'm re-writing it to clear it up.

[Lange_666]

55 minutes ago, SkateZilla said:

Force Oculus Launches using Oculus Runtimes (no OpenXR).
Force OpenXR Launches using OpenXR Runtimes (OpenXR Menu should be visible)

The reason that command is launching w/ OpenXR for you is the Argument for Oculus is wrong, should be:
 

--force_oculus_VR

Whatever i add as VR argument onto the MT DCS.exe (example: "E:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\DCS.exe" --force_oculus_VR )    it always starts in OpenXR (proof is that OpenXR toolkit works). I can not start the DCS.exe from the bin-MT with Oculus as API. It's always OpenXR.
When i use the ST version, it works conform the argument that is used, either Oculus or OpenXR.

Not so from within the updater: MT set to ON (so it should launch DCS from the bin-MT if i understand it correctly), Oculus VR API selected, no OpenXR (toolkit doesn't work).
Does the updater really starts the DCS.exe from the bin-MT when MT is set to ON?

 

[diamond26]

49 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

Oculus VR API selected, no OpenXR (toolkit doesn't work)

You have to use launch with VR ON button not the simple launch button to get OpenXR api to work

[SkateZilla]

57 minutes ago, diamond26 said:

You have to use launch with VR ON button not the simple launch button to get OpenXR api to work

This ^
VR ON is the only Launch Button that Sends the Arguments, 
VR OFF sends force_disable_VR
and LAUNCH by itself is default setting launch, no VR arguments either.

1 hour ago, Lange_666 said:

Whatever i add as VR argument onto the MT DCS.exe (example: "E:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\DCS.exe" --force_oculus_VR )    it always starts in OpenXR (proof is that OpenXR toolkit works). I can not start the DCS.exe from the bin-MT with Oculus as API. It's always OpenXR.
When i use the ST version, it works conform the argument that is used, either Oculus or OpenXR.

Not so from within the updater: MT set to ON (so it should launch DCS from the bin-MT if i understand it correctly), Oculus VR API selected, no OpenXR (toolkit doesn't work).
Does the updater really starts the DCS.exe from the bin-MT when MT is set to ON?

 

If youre selecting "Oculus VR API" from the Drop Down it will not Run Any OpenXR Commands, 
You Need to Select OpenXR for OpenXR Libraries.

It will default to OpenXR if the only Argument is "--force_oculus_VR", the Specific API Arguments Require "--force_enable_VR".

 

I literally switch back and forth between ST/MT and Oculus/OpenXR  a 100+ times a week testing w/ DCS Testers. The command functions are correct.

Launch VR ON:

The Arguments are Automatically added to the Process.String when launching, no need to add Arguments to the Launch Arguments Box.

These Arguments are Automatic when Choosing VR On, ST or MT.
If Selection is Default Windows API:
--force_enable_VR

if Selection is Oculus API
--force_enable_VR --force_oculus_VR

If selection is OpenXR API
--force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR

If Selection is SteamVR API
--force_enable_VR --force_steam_VR

Edited July 3, 2023 by SkateZilla

[Lange_666]

7 hours ago, diamond26 said:

You have to use launch with VR ON button not the simple launch button to get OpenXR api to work

That's what i did and what i do all the time.

I did believe that MT was OpenXR exclusively which doesn't seem to be the case then.

However:

- Selecting Oculus API in the app, setting MT ON in the app, selecting VR headset as preset and then hit the button Launch VR ON launches DCS MT in Oculus mode: no OpenXR toolkit proves that.

- Launching DCS MT from the desktop icon with --force_enable_VR --force_oculus_VR added ("E:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\DCS.exe" --force_enable_VR --force_Oculus_VR) launches in OpenXR because now the toolkit works.

That's where my confusion comes from.

 

[diamond26]

16 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

- Selecting Oculus API in the app, setting MT ON in the app, selecting VR headset as preset and then hit the button Launch VR ON launches DCS MT in Oculus mode: no OpenXR toolkit proves that.

That's an interesting finding, as I was also under the impression that MT wasn't available for Oculus API (based on previous testing and all the discussions in the forum)

I will test it again later tonight.

[Lange_666]

The question then remains, why 2 different outcomes from 2 different launch methodes when both (should) have the same arguments in the command line.

[firefox121]

noob quiestion..

If I define in the app the foru presets, remains in each preset the values that I have saved, but If I try to launch the app with any other preset than default the updater says error, cannot write same file...and does not launch. Only with Default preset launch well.

What am I doing wrong?

[Sting57]

Hi Thank you for the app it is great.  I had a quick question.  I noticed in the Graphic preset section under monitor I can't select the monitor option that Helios has created.  Only the stock DCS options.  Is there a way to use your own monitor setups file?

[AZDane]

Just noticed your flight stats in the screen shot.  That’s some serious flight time. 3+ years in the sim. 

[SkateZilla]

1 hour ago, AZDane said:

Just noticed your flight stats in the screen shot.  That’s some serious flight time. 3+ years in the sim. 

I've been in DCS since A-10C Beta, that's about 15 years now. (edited version #, as 1.1.1.1 was the last build prior to DCSW and not "beta")

those number's arent even accurate, as I few in multiple builds in parallel.

Edited July 5, 2023 by SkateZilla

[SkateZilla]

10 hours ago, Sting57 said:

Hi Thank you for the app it is great.  I had a quick question.  I noticed in the Graphic preset section under monitor I can't select the monitor option that Helios has created.  Only the stock DCS options.  Is there a way to use your own monitor setups file?

i will populate monitor config files for any monitor luas that are detected in the /DCS World/Config/MonitorSetup and Saved Games/DCS/Config/MonitorSetup folder.

The list will populate the Profiles in the game's folder first, then add profiles from the saved games folder.

[AZDane]

4 minutes ago, SkateZilla said:

I've been in DCS since A-10C 1.1.1.1 Beta

Nice !!

[Rex]

The app is telling me that 2.0.0.32 is available, but I can't tell how to download it.  The main D/L link on the first post still shows the older version.

Does anyone have any ideas?

[SkateZilla]

33 minutes ago, Rex said:

The app is telling me that 2.0.0.32 is available, but I can't tell how to download it.  The main D/L link on the first post still shows the older version.

Does anyone have any ideas?

All updates are attached to the first post:
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/134493-the-dcs-updater-launcher-gui-utility-version-20-2023/

 

Edited July 6, 2023 by SkateZilla