Reinaldow Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Hello guys. I have a Intel I5-4460 LGA 1150 3.20GHz, Asus Z97M Plus, Memory Corsair Vengeance (2x4GB) 2400MHz Black Corsair, SSD 500GB, GeForce GTX 970 4GB and Smart TV Sansung 40' 60hz. I not sure what happens, I have X Plane 10 and runs fine with my pc specification. But in DCS, I have micro stuttering in every movement I make. It happens with DCS 2.0 with nevada map either. I try to settings everthing in lower, but still have micro stuttering. All driver and bios are updated. Somebody can help me? Thanks in advance. Edited February 17, 2016 by Reinaldow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7rooper Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I have a lot of stuttering with the new update. I hope a next release will fix it My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinaldow Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 So is it a dcs problem? Not a specification system problem right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 8GB is the recommended minimum. It may not be the one cause for your stuttering but more RAM would for sure help. When you overlay MEM/SWAP/CPU/GPU with for example msi-afterburner software you can see how much your system consumes when actually playing DCS. It is not ony relevant how much DCS consumes but also how much RAM is being used totally. My actual numbers are an amazingl 10GB/10GB RAM/SWAP +/- a few GB usage while DCS is alone shows around 3GB in TaskManager. It remains a mystery where the other GB's went to, maybe caching. The 10GB+ swapfile make me worry but there is no way around it I guess. If I had 16 more GB on the desk I would love to try 32GB and see what swap does. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinaldow Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Bit Master, with your configuration, do you have micro stutters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necroscope Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Try this. Works fine for me. http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075781-tweak-enable-hpet-in-bios-and-os-for-better-performance-and-fps/ Всех убью, один останусь! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Bit Master, with your configuration, do you have micro stutters? 100% no stutter anywhere on both maps, 45-144fps worst-best range Gsync is the key, not the 4.8 - 5 GHz Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret1962 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 RAM usage / swapfile stuff is causing serious stutters with my 8 GB Ram. This began happening since EDGE. Can't play anymore since then. It just won't go past 10 minutes. So I guess your RAM is the cause aswell. There could be a discussion on how much ram dcs is using since edge but heh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolle Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 In my case the microstutter appeared only after the latest Nvidea driver update I did last night... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core I7 4820K @4.3 GHz, Asus P9X79 motherboard, 16 GB RAM @ 933 MHz, NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 GB VRAM, Windows 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmonalpha Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Hello guys. I have a Intel I5-4460 LGA 1150 3.20GHz, Asus Z97M Plus, Memory Corsair Vengeance (2x4GB) 2400MHz Black Corsair, SSD 500GB, GeForce GTX 970 4GB and Smart TV Sansung 40' 60hz. I not sure what happens, I have X Plane 10 and runs fine with my pc specification. But in DCS, I have micro stuttering in every movement I make. It happens with DCS 2.0 with nevada map either. I try to settings everthing in lower, but still have micro stuttering. All driver and bios are updated. Somebody can help me? Thanks in advance. tbh i think your resolution to your spec ration is a major problem, SLI setup is a must at this res , im not surprised you are getting micro-stutters tbh i would try a test on a lower res and see what this does, ram is so important at your resolution and you only have 4gb vram on your card and 8gb system ram, got to be looking above these at your resolution Nevada is proving very component intensive, its a massive terrain, we can all tweak settings but its basic power under the hood Edited February 17, 2016 by gazmonalpha System Specs, Core i7 950 OC 4.2Ghz, 1.5TB Hdd, MSI GTX 980 Ti, 24GB Ram, WIN 10 64 Bit, 1000w PSU ,Trackir5, Thrustmaster Warthog:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinaldow Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Necroscope, thank you, really worked here too! There are some micro stutters, but rarely... I used this command to enable: bcdedit /set useplatformclock true By the way, my OS is Windows 10 Professional 64bits. And tks for another people. I will increase more RAM and maybe change for I7. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necroscope Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Glad to help! :) Mine setup is almost the same as yours but Win7, and I'm not going to upgrade anything. Got 40-60+ fps in Ka-50 story mode with almost everything on max. Всех убью, один останусь! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyline35 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Glad to help! :) Mine setup is almost the same as yours but Win7, and I'm not going to upgrade anything. Got 40-60+ fps in Ka-50 story mode with almost everything on max. I just tried but nothing changed for me, the game feel like running at 15fps, it's unplayable (even if my game counter is saying I'm at 45fps :noexpression: ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Youtube Channel Ryzen 2600 -- GTX980 4Go -- 16Go RAM 3200Mhz -- TM Warthog + Rudder Pedals -- HomeMade trackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droopy114 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I just tried but nothing changed for me, the game feel like running at 15fps, it's unplayable (even if my game counter is saying I'm at 45fps :noexpression: ) Last week, i went from 8Gb to 16Gb RAM, GSkill 4x4Gb Ares low profile 2133Mhz to be more precise...no more stuttering since my upgrade, i can stay for hours on multiplayers servers without crash, a real game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hadji Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I just tried but nothing changed for me, the game feel like running at 15fps, it's unplayable (even if my game counter is saying I'm at 45fps :noexpression: ) I think more RAM and using SSD instead of HDD would improve your experience. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My computer specs below: CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K@4.2GHz | CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100 | GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 680 2GB Lightning 2GB VRAM @1.3GHz | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 | SSD 1: Corsair Force 3 120GB (SATA 6) | SSD 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA 6) | Hybrid disc: Seagate Momentus Hybrid 500/4GB (SATA 3) | Keyboard: QPAD MK-85 | Mouse: QPAD 5K LE | TrackIR 5 + Track Clip Pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | MFG Crosswind | OS: Win7/64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyline35 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I think more RAM and using SSD instead of HDD would improve your experience. We aren't suppose to have 16Go of ram to have a proper experience when the 1.5 since the beggining worked VERY well concerning my framerate, and damn guys 16Go of ram is a lot of money... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Youtube Channel Ryzen 2600 -- GTX980 4Go -- 16Go RAM 3200Mhz -- TM Warthog + Rudder Pedals -- HomeMade trackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFBunny Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) I've not notice any stuttering using an nvidia gtx 760 oc 2gb card with cheap ddr3 kingston 16gb basic ram and an i-5 (the k one - 4690k 3.5ghz with turbo to 4ghz). I do have an SSD. Samsung evo 8-whatever 250gb. I think this is a pretty average rig for people on a budget and just meets the min requirements. (I wonder what he built his budget pc for) I was interested so I did some small tests just for you guys as I'd never thought about it. DCS 1.5 CPU use is around 30 - 50% with some spikes not affecting fps of 70% fps 70 - 130 SSD got hit with 100% use at times I think I have a lot of settings on high. I had 14 chrome tabs (as I loaded dcs just for this reply) with one playing a youtube video. RAM is 7GB total use in sp - dcs using around 3gb RAM is 12.5GB total use in mp - dcs using 8.6GB (night) RAM is 13.7GB total using in mp - dcs using 9.5 - 10GB (day) 1920x1080 rez, no action happening, outside view / flyby from other players. No ram change when action happens. I was alt tabbing full screen with the action happening in the background and looking at windows task manager. Edited February 27, 2016 by BFBunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 We aren't suppose to have 16Go of ram to have a proper experience when the 1.5 since the beggining worked VERY well concerning my framerate, and damn guys 16Go of ram is a lot of money... With any new machine and 8GB you have a good chance to run into svchost.exe to consume ALL OF YOUR RAM while you install updates in i.e. Win7-64 as there are more than 150 Updates installed at a time and windows internals alone will prompt you with an "out of memory, please close applications and...." message. Had this multiple times while installing various customer machines since about a year now. I highly recommend 12GB for tripple channel and 16GB dual channel as minimum if you want to avoid standard scenarios getting out of control. This doesnt happen often with 8GB machines, but you will have a 30% chance to encounter this when reinstalling WIn7 and installing all Updates as prompted. This is actually a Windows flaw, there is no need to swell svchost to such an extend to overflow RAM and SWAP but Redmond seems to push the experience you get with win7 towards "i want 10". Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyline35 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 But this is the "easy" fix for this issue : upgrading our PC, the reality is that DCS is badly optimized, we had a big step between 1.2 and 1.5 but problems are back. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Youtube Channel Ryzen 2600 -- GTX980 4Go -- 16Go RAM 3200Mhz -- TM Warthog + Rudder Pedals -- HomeMade trackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Rider Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 With any new machine and 8GB you have a good chance to run into svchost.exe to consume ALL OF YOUR RAM while you install updates in i.e. Win7-64 as there are more than 150 Updates installed at a time and windows internals alone will prompt you with an "out of memory, please close applications and...." message. Had this multiple times while installing various customer machines since about a year now. I highly recommend 12GB for tripple channel and 16GB dual channel as minimum if you want to avoid standard scenarios getting out of control. This doesnt happen often with 8GB machines, but you will have a 30% chance to encounter this when reinstalling WIn7 and installing all Updates as prompted. This is actually a Windows flaw, there is no need to swell svchost to such an extend to overflow RAM and SWAP but Redmond seems to push the experience you get with win7 towards "i want 10". Shouldn't be auto downloading/ installing updates ( or other ) whilst running a sim ( or other ) anyway City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 So, are the stutters a RAM issue? With 8GB I'm getting decent frames but 1.5.3 is a stutter fest while 1.5.2 runs smooth as butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyline35 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 So, are the stutters a RAM issue? With 8GB I'm getting decent frames but 1.5.3 is a stutter fest while 1.5.2 runs smooth as butter. Me too, stutter simulator 2016, sometimes I get freeze for 10 secondes, and everytime I spawn a plane, OMG, looking around take ages, everything lag as hell :joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Youtube Channel Ryzen 2600 -- GTX980 4Go -- 16Go RAM 3200Mhz -- TM Warthog + Rudder Pedals -- HomeMade trackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susuwatari Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I have 24 gb RAM and still getting that annoying momentary micro stutters/jumps 2-3 times a minute. (No fps problems). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyline35 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just uping the post to tell that recent update didn't changed anything about this issue. And I upgraded to a GTX 970 4Go and still have the same problem. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Youtube Channel Ryzen 2600 -- GTX980 4Go -- 16Go RAM 3200Mhz -- TM Warthog + Rudder Pedals -- HomeMade trackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn8ke Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 100% no stutter anywhere on both maps, 45-144fps worst-best range Gsync is the key, not the 4.8 - 5 GHz May I ask which driver you are using? Reason I ask is because I use gsync as well, however gsync likes to pic and choose which driver it will actually work with. Asus ROG Maximus X Apex//Core I7 8700K @ 5.3Ghz //32GB DDR4 RAM//Asus 3090 RTX//4K monitor w/ TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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