TomCatMucDe Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 the progress you did with the radar is tremendous. it seems so easy for you! what about the loss of the lock? it seems way too easy. I dont know if it is realistic as it is or not, but will you change something in that regard? Thanks!
T_A Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Yes lose of lock is really annoying , it seems so easy to lose lock on targets and its a real pita after launching the 530 IAF.Tomer My Rig: Core i7 6700K + Corsair Hydro H100i GTX Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7,G.Skill 32GB DDR4 3000Mhz Gigabyte GTX 980 OC Samsung 840EVO 250GB + 3xCrucial 275GB in RAID 0 (1500 MB/s) Asus MG279Q | TM Warthog + Saitek Combat Pedals + TrackIR 5 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Enduro14 Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Yes lose of lock is really annoying , it seems so easy to lose lock on targets and its a real pita after launching the 530 this is my number one fix in my wishlist. Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
Ashilta Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I think that the loss of target lock is because of the missing stabilisation, which Zeus has said he's fixed in the next update - targets shouldn't be lost quite so easily from Friday!
Zeus67 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Posted March 2, 2016 If you have a contact locked in TWS, the antenna will follow the target elevation. Azimuth is a little more tricky, so I'll see what can be done. Not coded yet, but azimuth lock is more tricky in TWS, because as the name implies it must keep scanning for other contacts. I think the best solution is for azimuth arcs less than 60 the antenna will center on the contact to the arc limit. The arc limit in this case refers to the highest azimuth value for the antenna to keep full coverage: For 60º the antenna won't center its azimuth with the target. For 30º that should be ±30º. For 15º that should be ±45º. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
nogano00 Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 It's like other radars, you have configurable number of 'bars' of search: 1, 2, or 4. The radar cone is approximately 3 degrees, so a 1 bar search will cover 3 degrees, 2 bars covers about 6 degrees, and 4 bars covers about 12 degrees. What you're controlling with the antenna elevation control (and what is indicated by the marker in the display) is the amount the antenna is angled up or down in the middle of its scan zone. The min/max altitude this area encompasses depends on your own altitude, and the distance from your aircraft: 3 degrees covers a much wider area 40 miles away than it does 4 miles away. The images in this post might help visualise this. Won't everyone just scan at 12 degrees then? I mean it's a larger altitude range? am i misunderstanding this? You do what you can for as long as you can, and when you finally can't, you do the next best thing. You back up but you don't give up. — Chuck Yeager
GGTharos Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Zeus, is there a frame store (memory) for the TWS tracks? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Sarge55 Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Won't everyone just scan at 12 degrees then? I mean it's a larger altitude range? am i misunderstanding this? Not necessarily. A 12 degree scan will take much longer to complete and it's possible to miss or lose a contact. Certainly if you have no idea where your enemy is then a larger scan would be advisable. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog
PiedDroit Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 [..] next to the TCD, the distance (between you and the TCD) in NM, plus the min/max FL the antenna scans at this distance (in "S" mode) or the FL at the center of the radar beam at this distance (in "Z" mode). [..] This will extremely useful :thumbup:
Zeus67 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Posted March 2, 2016 Radar azimuth control is nearly finalized (I only need to update B-Mode screen). But now the radar antenna is fully steerable by the pilot under certain conditions. Steering to the right with Az = 30º Steering to the left with Az = 15º To move the antenna in azimuth you only need to move the TDC to the left or the right. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Plushanubka Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 I'm really impressed how fast work on radar is going. Can't wait friday.
VTJS17_Fire Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 To move the antenna in azimuth you only need to move the TDC to the left or the right. Do I need to do this also, when a contact is locked? Or moves the antenna azimuth automatic with the locked contact (TWS/ STT)? Hardware: Intel i5 4670K | Zalman NPS9900MAX | GeIL 16GB @1333MHz | Asrock Z97 Pro4 | Sapphire Radeon R9 380X Nitro | Samsung SSDs 840 series 120GB & 250 GB | Samsung HD204UI 2TB | be quiet! Pure Power 530W | Aerocool RS-9 Devil Red | Samsung SyncMaster SA350 24" + ASUS VE198S 19" | Saitek X52 | TrackIR 5 | Thrustmaster MFD Cougar | Speedlink Darksky LED | Razor Diamondback | Razor X-Mat Control | SoundBlaster Tactic 3D Rage ### Software: Windows 10 Pro 64Bit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Zeus67 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Posted March 2, 2016 Do I need to do this also, when a contact is locked? Or moves the antenna azimuth automatic with the locked contact (TWS/ STT)? When the radar is in STT, the anternna is locked in both elevation and azimuth to the target. When the radar is in TWS, the antenna is locked only in elevation to the target. As for centering the antenna in azimuth, I am not so sure. After all in TWS the radar still keeps searching for other contacts while keeping track of your target. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Zeus67 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Posted March 2, 2016 Won't everyone just scan at 12 degrees then? I mean it's a larger altitude range? am i misunderstanding this? The larger the azimuth, more time takes the antenna to move from one side to the other. The more bars you use, more time it takes to complete an entire sweep. But on the other hand, larger azimuth + higher bars means that you have a larger search area. This is why in CCM, when using Horizontal Scan the azimuth is limited to 15° and only 1 bar. This is the quickest search pattern. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
YoYo Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 To move the antenna in azimuth you only need to move the TDC to the left or the right. Interesting, thank You! Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
TomCatMucDe Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Friday is gonna be a glorious day! What's next with the radar? Probably auto lock in CCM and Magics slaving ? I think these are the 2 last things for the air to air radar. At least can't think of something else.
Dudikoff Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 But now the radar antenna is fully steerable by the pilot under certain conditions. Steering to the right with Az = 30º Steering to the left with Az = 15º To move the antenna in azimuth you only need to move the TDC to the left or the right. Can you please explain where can those azimuth offset values be seen there? To me it looks as if the first image shows radar antenna steered to the left and the second one to the right. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Jacks Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Zeus, will there be a way of moving the TDC left or right without also changing the radars azimuth? This would be useful for when you are intercepting a target along the aircraft's heading and so want to keep the radar pointing forward to maximise the chances of detection but while doing so you want to interrogate a radar contact that appears at the edge of you scan area. System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
Voodooflies Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Looks like a new chapter has begun regarding the M2KC combat efficiency. I can't wait friday ! Zeus, how about the RWR, are the radar missiles launches being detected and tracked by the SERVAL now or is it still WIP ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Skitter Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) how about the RWR, are the radar missiles launches being detected and tracked by the SERVAL now or is it still WIP ? From what I've read , the real M2000C doesn't have a missile warning system. Can't find the post now. EDIT: Ah! Here it is: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2696379&postcount=1154 Edited March 2, 2016 by Skitter
atonium83 Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 From what I've read , the real M2000C doesn't have a missile warning system. Can't find the post now. EDIT: Ah! Here it is: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2696379&postcount=1154 Yeah that's right, Dassault made the MWS for all M2000 series (C, D, N, -5F, and others) but French Air Force use it only on the D variant, M2000C is able to carry it but I've never seen any C with it, and as far as I know, the Escadron de chasse 1/2 "cigogne" (Fighter Squadron 1/2 "storks") have few MWS in stock for their M2000-5F but doesn't use it.
Azrayen Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 (...) but French Air Force use it only on the D variant Nope. D and N. Agreed with the rest i.e. aircraft capable even if not used (cockpit compatible, probably wiring done too...) I support Razbam's decision to make the D2M (MLWS) available on their 2000C. To answer Sacha: it's not implemented now.
Enduro14 Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 I welcome the common sense approach. Hope the Mica is also brought in too Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
PiedDroit Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 From what I've read , the real M2000C doesn't have a missile warning system. Can't find the post now. EDIT: Ah! Here it is: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2696379&postcount=1154 SERVAL is RWR, so M-2000C has it and it should be able to detect missile launch under certain conditions (not talking about IR).
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