ThorBrasil Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 Can someone explain what the F-5E you doing on the USS Midway? |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) I think that this is the F-5 delivery to the south Vietnam. Edit: take a look: https://books.google.com.br/books?id=JvANc4CpPnwC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=f-5+vietn%C3%A3+uss+midway&source=bl&ots=8gfqaDrCoL&sig=Y50tBJv8Vazx8Nn1Tm5gAvaxULE&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiG84LqwIPNAhXGOyYKHZcpBEIQ6AEIOzAE#v=onepage&q=f-5%20vietn%C3%A3%20uss%20midway&f=false http://www.aereo.jor.br/2010/03/21/quem-disse-que-o-f-5-nao-embarca-em-navio-aerodromo/ The F-5's didn't land on the carrier, they were actually just transported. Edited May 31, 2016 by Darkbrotherhood7 Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Nirvi Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 Isn't it a hook in the last picture? Yes, but it is not carrier suitable. The hook would only be used in emergencies at land-based airfields. Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos
hvymtal Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 Besides, it didn't/doesn't have the double nosewheel and catapult guide (always forget what it's called), thus it couldn't take off from the flat-deck carriers used by the US My Logitech Extreme3D Pro "Essentials" Profiles for FC3 and 25T: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/599930/ Thrustmaster T.16000M, TWCS FC3, F-5E, M2000C, AJS-37, C-101, F-14, NTTR
Oesau Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 Besides, it didn't/doesn't have the double nosewheel and catapult guide (always forget what it's called), thus it couldn't take off from the flat-deck carriers used by the US Well that actually wouldn't discount it from being a carrier aircraft - most aircraft prior to the F-4 Phantom 2 had a single nose wheel. But getting back to the original point, the F-5 isn't a carrier aircraft.
ebabil Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 i can understand f-5 on a carrier but there is also a cessna on the deck man! lol FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
mattebubben Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) i can understand f-5 on a carrier but there is also a cessna on the deck man! lol The Cessna was Likely a FAC aircraft. But yea Using Carriers for Aircraft Delivery was not that uncommon. (for aircraft that were not able to just fly to the destination) Edited May 31, 2016 by mattebubben
QuiGon Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 i can understand f-5 on a carrier but there is also a cessna on the deck man! lol Maybe Air America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_%28airline%29 :D Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 Maybe Air America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_%28airline%29 :D lol :D Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mvsgas Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) There more than one Cessna, look at all those Cessna A-37 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Midway_transporting_ex-VNAF_aircraft_from_Thailand_to_Guam.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ex-VNAF_A-37s_on_deck_of_USS_Midway.jpg http://datab.us/i/South%20Vietnamese%20Air%20Force Edited May 31, 2016 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
SkateZilla Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 The F-5's Were Crane Lifted or Rotary Wing Lifted on and Off the Carrier Deck. They Used the Carrier to Send them. The Tail Hook on the F-5E was not Designed for Carrier Landings, Neither was teh Gear for that Matter. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
SkateZilla Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 Besides, it didn't/doesn't have the double nosewheel and catapult guide (always forget what it's called), thus it couldn't take off from the flat-deck carriers used by the US A Launch Bar for the Catapult Shuttle isnt *Required* Earlier Naval Aircraft used a "bridle", which was a wire device that attached to 2 aft facing hook points under the aircraft and then wrapped around the catapult shuttle, and detached from the AC when it left the deck. Was used on A-4s, F-4s etc etc, though the F-5 doesnt have these either. As for double nose gear, yeah, that would be a big issue, other wise the gear woulda fell into the shuttle run lol. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Basher54321 Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) I think that this is the F-5 delivery to the south Vietnam. The F-5's didn't land on the carrier, they were actually just transported. At least 2 of the photos show USS Midway carrying aircraft back to the USA after the war - these are the aircraft that VNAF pilots escaped to Thailand with. Edited May 31, 2016 by Basher54321
OutOnTheOP Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 i can understand f-5 on a carrier but there is also a cessna on the deck man! lol And, if I am not mistaken, a bunch of AT-37 Dragonflies on the left side of the deck. *edit* oh, MVS already pointed that out
TwoLate Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 Here are some pics of P-47 off of carrier. Sorry back on topic. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ESAc_matador Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 Those ahould be, South vietnam F5 retired from the theatre...
Oesau Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 A Launch Bar for the Catapult Shuttle isnt *Required* Earlier Naval Aircraft used a "bridle", which was a wire device that attached to 2 aft facing hook points under the aircraft and then wrapped around the catapult shuttle, and detached from the AC when it left the deck. Was used on A-4s, F-4s etc etc, though the F-5 doesnt have these either. As for double nose gear, yeah, that would be a big issue, other wise the gear woulda fell into the shuttle run lol. Skate - actually a single nose wheel was common on naval aircraft before the F-4 (though as you have noted even the Phantom didn't use a launch bar - I believe the A-6 was the first to use one). Note sure how this impacted the tires...
Belgeode Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 i can understand f-5 on a carrier but there is also a cessna on the deck man! lol Yeah Bird Dog... definitely one of the FAC / Observer aircraft. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] YouTube ~ Twitch
Drag0nWIng Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 the hook is used for emergency landing on airfield... no navy variant f-5 on carrier... they just bring these f-5 to Vietnam. just like they did the same thing to corsair during pacific war, they use carrier to transport the fighters to the island airbase. maybe navy had f-5 before, but not for deck mission. f-15 also has hook, so it can launch or landing on carrier?
viperdogsnake Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 the hook is used for emergency landing on airfield... no navy variant f-5 on carrier... they just bring these f-5 to Vietnam. just like they did the same thing to corsair during pacific war, they use carrier to transport the fighters to the island airbase. maybe navy had f-5 before, but not for deck mission. f-15 also has hook, so it can launch or landing on carrier? So does F-16, and many other fighters. Prevents loosing an entire aircraft due to landing gear malfunctions, ground controlability issues, and brake failures to name a few. Typically the field arresting gear has a much longer pull out then a carrier, providing the decelaration without loosing the wings. If you live in the US, you can notice these gears at some dual use airports. If you taxi on to the runway as a passenger and hear a clunk while your airbus taxi's over a cable walla! on
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