The A-10 'Warthog' just got a little more badass

[Call911]

A10 weapons upgrade(real world)

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-a-10-warthog-just-got-a-little-more-badass-2016-6?yptr=yahoo&ref=yfp%3Fr%3DUK&IR=T

 

Be interesting if this would find it's way into DCSW

Edited June 19, 2016 by Call911

[Wrecking Crew]

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[mattebubben]

Yea this would be a very nice munition to have ingame.

 

It would be perfect for light armored vehicles (letting you save AGM-65s for heavier armor)

 

as any type of BMP/BTR or Arty vehicle would probably be no problem for one of these guided rockets.

 

(Its just a modified Hydra 70 with Canards and Laser seekers)

 

It uses the same warheads,fuses and rocket engines as normal Hydra 70s

 

(with a guidance section including the canards being mounted between the warhead/Fuse section and the Rocket section)

 

And im just suprised a munition like this had not been developed and adopted earlier as it feel like such an obvious solution

(and its a perfect weapon for the kind of fighting that the US has done so much of since 1991)

 

And i would be surprised if this weapon system (or one like it) does not become common place either within nato or world wide (with the russians most likely developing something similar for their 80mm rockets)

As its Cheap (as you can just modify existing rockets or buy new once as they rather cheap compared to other weapon types)

 

And very effective against small targets that you might not want to waste a LGB or AGM-65 against (or other expensive guided munitions).

[cichlidfan]

Be interesting if this would find it's way into DCSW

 

It won't happen. The A-10C has received many upgrades since the version we have and none of them are forthcoming for the sim.

[Enduro14]

Hmmm those have been around real world for awhile but cool to see press on it. I know our brothers flying the black little birds have enjoyed them very much, great enhancement for sure

[Call911]

Hmmm those have been around real world for awhile but cool to see press on it. I know our brothers flying the black little birds have enjoyed them very much, great enhancement for sure

 

Yeah interesting they mentioned some helis using em too and also the AV8B I believe. Gonna post in http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=155320 as a wishlist item :D

[Fishnuts]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a21355/a-10-warthogs-now-carry-laser-guided-rockets/ Different article with some nice videos and more tech data we all love around here.

[Snoopy]

Yup not new, A-10s have been able to carry laser guided rockets for a few years now.

[SkateZilla]

if I had a nickel for everytime someone wanted a update to add something to DCS:A-10C thats well beyond the modelled suite.

[St3v3f]

If I had a dime every time someone talks about modelled suites.

[Home Fries]

Here's the question: is it a matter of adding the APKWS to DCS and then allowing anything with a laser to guide it in, or is it a matter of actually modifying the A-10C in order to allow the APKWS as a usable munition?

[Eamoe]

The A-10C has received many upgrades since the version we have and none of them are forthcoming for the sim.

What are these upgrades? Do they have these million dollar helmets like they wear in the F-35? I've seen pictures with drivers wearing high tech helmets with those bulgy visors...

[Snoopy]

if I had a nickel for everytime someone wanted a update to add something to DCS:A-10C thats well beyond the modelled suite.

 

Then ED could use that money to model and upgraded suite. Not gonna happen I know but it would be nice.

 

What are these upgrades? Do they have these million dollar helmets like they wear in the F-35? I've seen pictures with drivers wearing high tech helmets with those bulgy visors...

 

We have HMCS with is a fraction of the cost of the F-35 helmet and actually much cheaper than JHMCS the F-15 or F-16 use.

[EasyEB]

I think ED should model a new suite of the A-10C and just sell it as a new module. I feel the difference between the current A-10C and the suite we have in DCS is as big as the one between the A-10A and current.

 

But I guess there is alot of other things in the way?

[Eamoe]

We have HMCS with is a fraction of the cost of the F-35 helmet and actually much cheaper than JHMCS the F-15 or F-16 use.

Mmh. Nice. Googled it quick and actually I think JHMCS is actually what I called the "bulgy visor" helmet. Anyway, implementing such a device in DCS sounds like a pain to make properly. Plus I guess some of its working are still classified. Not accounting for the fact that it would probably take a while getting used to, playwise, with all the symbology permanently suprimposed on the view.

[SkateZilla]

I think ED should model a new suite of the A-10C and just sell it as a new module. I feel the difference between the current A-10C and the suite we have in DCS is as big as the one between the A-10A and current.

 

But I guess there is alot of other things in the way?

 

Assuming:

- The Later Suites systems aren't still classified

- ED/TFC Have a License Agreement to do so.

 

 

Also Given the Potential for people exploding over Paid Upgrades to an existing module, which has been observed in the past w/ KA-50/KA-502 and FC2/FC3, etc etc,

I doubt we open that can of worms.

 

As a Separate module, doubt it for reason above, PPL would go bonkers over "minimal changes to internal and external 3d models and new systems" being something to pay for.

 

if ED Pursued it, and I had a Vote in the scenario,

 

-I would Package it with the Current A-10C Module ID, update Entry.lua w/ a 2nd A-10C Call (ie "A-10C Suite X"), update and export new separate Cockpit /External Models, add the new systems, etc

-Raise the price of the A-10C Module Back to 49.99 or 59.99 from 39.99, and note the increase was due to new features and developments.

-Existing Owners get the update for free.

-A-10C Module will now have 2 A-10C Aircraft, the Original Suite and the Modern Suite.

 

But that's just me, and the entire prospect of a 2nd A-10C Module isnt a reality anyway.

Edited June 20, 2016 by SkateZilla

[Vitormouraa]

If my memory is right, the APKWS does not need an upgrade for the aircraft, you just remove the warhead and put the WGU-59/B mid-body guidance unit and then the warhead, and it is ready to use, it would be really nice in DCS, also the Suite 8 with HMCS. (But I doubt it)

[Cool Breeze]

if I had a nickel for everytime someone wanted a update to add something to DCS:A-10C thats well beyond the modelled suite.

 

 

If I had a dime every time someone talks about modelled suites.

 

:lol::lol::lol::megalol:

[EasyEB]

Assuming:

- The Later Suites systems aren't still classified

- ED/TFC Have a License Agreement to do so.

 

 

Also Given the Potential for people exploding over Paid Upgrades to an existing module, which has been observed in the past w/ KA-50/KA-502 and FC2/FC3, etc etc,

I doubt we open that can of worms.

 

As a Separate module, doubt it for reason above, PPL would go bonkers over "minimal changes to internal and external 3d models and new systems" being something to pay for.

 

if ED Pursued it, and I had a Vote in the scenario,

 

-I would Package it with the Current A-10C Module ID, update Entry.lua w/ a 2nd A-10C Call (ie "A-10C Suite X"), update and export new separate Cockpit /External Models, add the new systems, etc

-Raise the price of the A-10C Module Back to 49.99 or 59.99 from 39.99, and note the increase was due to new features and developments.

-Existing Owners get the update for free.

-A-10C Module will now have 2 A-10C Aircraft, the Original Suite and the Modern Suite.

 

But that's just me, and the entire prospect of a 2nd A-10C Module isnt a reality anyway.

 

Are the ppl exploding over paid content more than those paying for the content? I know what you are talking about with the exploding (and you are a gentleman for putting it nicely, I'd use the words whine or bitch).

 

All I know is I put over 1000 hours into the A-10C last year and since I first purchased it I've payed over $100 for the current version. I'd gladly pay more for an updated version. You're breaking my heart here. Oh well, a girl can dream.

[Xavven]

I would gladly pay $5-$20 for an A-10C "expansion" that adds the APKWS and HMCS.

[Snoopy]

I would gladly pay $5-$20 for an A-10C "expansion" that adds the APKWS and HMCS.

 

A lot more than just HMCS and ARKWS has been upgraded from the suite 3 (ish) A-10C we have in DCS World and suite 8 of the real aicraft.

[Vitormouraa]

I think we don't need the Suite 8 to use APKWS.. not sure though

[Eamoe]

A lot more than just HMCS and ARKWS has been upgraded from the suite 3 (ish) A-10C we have in DCS World and suite 8 of the real aicraft.

 

Given the title of this thread, I dare ask again, what are those upgrades from suites 4 and beyond? Besides the helmet and smart rocket?

[SkateZilla]

Radios. Galore..

 

Ask Snoopy, He'd be the one to know.

[Deadman]

Old but a good read

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