Rafal Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) There is some strange behavior when taking off with Mirage when slight crosswinds occurs. Between 60-80 kts of IAS rudder seams to not function at all and its impossible to counter those 4 m/s crosswinds. Don't tell me that its suppose to be that way. 4 m/s is '3' in Beaufort scale - gentle breeze. Edited August 21, 2016 by Rafal
Knock-Knock Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Same experience here. With no wind, there is no problem on take off. Well rudder is still a little lazy. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals |
IvanK Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 See the Thread "Mirage still pulls to the left" 1
Rafal Posted August 20, 2016 Author Posted August 20, 2016 I'm sorry guys It is possible that you will upload some kind of hotfix or at least tell us what to change in this 'one line of code' in lua I'm assume... ? :music_whistling:
Rlaxoxo Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 It is possible that you will upload some kind of hotfix or at least tell us what to change in this 'one line of code' in lua I'm assume... ? :music_whistling: Compiled code in bin files we don't have access to the Source code otherwise we would be able to do whatever we wanted too [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Amarok_73 Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 So another three weeks of living in hope to eventually get usable product, then receiving another bunch of SVN, C++, and other mistakes. Charming. This module so far is second in list of DCS related dissapointments, just after Hawk. 3 Natural Born Kamikaze ------------------------- AMD Ryzen 5 3600, AMD Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, 32 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX, PSU Modecom Volcano 750W, Virpil Constellation Alpha Prime on Moza AB9 base, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, Turtle Beach VelocityOne Rudder.
bkthunder Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 So another three weeks of living in hope to eventually get usable product, then receiving another bunch of SVN, C++, and other mistakes. Charming. This module so far is second in list of DCS related dissapointments, just after Hawk. I don't have the hawk, but I kinda know the story. Comparing these two is a bit extreme IMO, the Mirage seems like a much better and more finished module. The bugs are annoying, but Razbam has a good record of fixing stuff (and lately breaking some things as well, but s*it happens). I want to add that in the latest 1.5.4 I noticed that the toe-brakes can't hold the airplane still even at idle. The airplane is also able to accelerate quite quickly by just releasing the brakes and leaving the engine at idle. Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
Rlaxoxo Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 I don't have the hawk, but I kinda know the story. Comparing these two is a bit extreme IMO, the Mirage seems like a much better and more finished module. The bugs are annoying, but Razbam has a good record of fixing stuff (and lately breaking some things as well, but s*it happens). I want to add that in the latest 1.5.4 I noticed that the toe-brakes can't hold the airplane still even at idle. The airplane is also able to accelerate quite quickly by just releasing the brakes and leaving the engine at idle. Don't bother with him and give him attention cus that's what he wants. Anyone dumb enough to side with him is well ... dumb So let him QQ if he wants he probably wanted to do it anyways and he just needed to find the reason why On braking issue I have no problems Press RCtrl + Enter and see if you're applying the brakes in the first place 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Rafal Posted August 21, 2016 Author Posted August 21, 2016 Anyone dumb enough to side with him is well ... dumb Is this official Razbam statement? :lol:
Rlaxoxo Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Is this official Razbam statement? :lol: lol no just my personal opinion You saying that does puts some light on one of my problems ... The work that Devs made on this module since release has been exemplary and when I hear people complaining like this over such issues and comparing stuff to a Hawk and all just makes my blood boil but ofc I don't want to blow up my fuse every time I see that however I have problem controlling my self at times : D Edited August 21, 2016 by Rlaxoxo [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Harke Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Only those who do nothing never make mistakes so don't worry too much :)
Ashilta Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 So another three weeks of living in hope to eventually get usable product, then receiving another bunch of SVN, C++, and other mistakes. Charming. This module so far is second in list of DCS related dissapointments, just after Hawk. What ****ing planet are you on son? 3
Davee Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 What ****ing planet are you on son? Even though he seems very frustrated . . . IMHO, it is a fair comment that reflects "Marketing 101" guidelines. 2
Jugdriver Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 lThe work that Devs made on this module since release has been exemplary +1 JD AKA_MattE
Pikey Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Saying it's an unuseable product is not a fair or accurate or even sensible comment, so apart from the frustration the post has literally no merit. Even though he seems very frustrated . . . IMHO, it is a fair comment that reflects "Marketing 101" guidelines. 1 ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
ZHeN Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 full mil takeoff is not available at the moment - plane pulls hard to the side, off the runway only full AB works [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Zeus67 Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 full mil takeoff is not available at the moment - plane pulls hard to the side, off the runway only full AB works Please be advised that under no circumstances attempt a takeoff without full afterburners. That big delta wing works as an airbrake and will f***-up your day unless you overcome it with the AB. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Voodooflies Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Please be advised that under no circumstances attempt a takeoff without full afterburners. That big delta wing works as an airbrake and will f***-up your day unless you overcome it with the AB. However go arounds are made buster only in the french airforce as far as I know. :book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Hedhunta Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 full mil takeoff is not available at the moment - plane pulls hard to the side, off the runway only full AB works Even with full AB if you load the thing with bombs all the way accross(which is still way under the listed take off weight) it will drive right off the runway past 70 knots(conveniently when the nosewheel stops working) if there is even the slightest crosswind. I don't know if that is normal but it seems like it should be correctable with rudder input but it isn't. Even the old trick of holding the elevator back to bring the nose up doesn't seem to help currently.
outlawal2 Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 So another three weeks of living in hope to eventually get usable product, then receiving another bunch of SVN, C++, and other mistakes. Charming. This module so far is second in list of DCS related dissapointments, just after Hawk. And another GENIUS whining about a BETA product because it has issues.. Hey Einstein, "Early Access' and "Beta" means the product is not complete yet and may have some issues. If you can't accept that then don't buy beta. :doh: 1 "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
jojo Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Even with full AB if you load the thing with bombs all the way accross(which is still way under the listed take off weight) it will drive right off the runway past 70 knots(conveniently when the nosewheel stops working) if there is even the slightest crosswind. I don't know if that is normal but it seems like it should be correctable with rudder input but it isn't. Even the old trick of holding the elevator back to bring the nose up doesn't seem to help currently. AN HOLD FILE HAS BEEN UPLOADED BY MISTAKE IN LAST UPDATE. IT'S ALREADY CORRECTED. WAIT FOR NEXT UPDATE... sorry, I had to tell it, it has been said so many times already :joystick: Edited August 25, 2016 by jojo Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Goldsmack Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 So another three weeks of living in hope to eventually get usable product, then receiving another bunch of SVN, C++, and other mistakes. Charming. This module so far is second in list of DCS related dissapointments, just after Hawk. That was completely uncalled for but that is your opinion. Go look at the bug fix list, RAZBAM have done an amazing job so far with this aircraft and are one of the best example of dev/consumer relations I have seen. The Mirage has come along way since its first release and yes still has a bit to go but I knew that when I purchased the module as a BETA!!! Windows 10 Pro 64, I5 4690k @4.6GHz with CAPTIAN 240EX AOI, Samsung 850 EVO ,G Skill Ripjaws 16G RAM, Nvidia GTX 970 STRIX, MSI Z97 GAMING 5, WD Blue 1TB HDD, Seasonic M12 II EVO psu, Track IR 5, Pro Flight X-55 Rhino H.O.T.A.S
Rlaxoxo Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 And another GENIUS whining about a BETA product because it has issues.. Hey Einstein, "Early Access' and "Beta" means the product is not complete yet and may have some issues. If you can't accept that then don't buy beta. :doh: Tho in his defense I somewhat agree with him, not with the fact that Razbam made mistakes ... everyone can it's human nature but having to wait a full week and sometimes even 2 if ED doesn't decide to release a patch for a fix is really stressful For such a small mistake like a line of a code we have to wait for so long ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Rafal Posted August 25, 2016 Author Posted August 25, 2016 One problem, one explanation, tons of bullshit how great RAZBAM is. Stop this stupid spam guys - you will not get a free copy of Razbam next plane ;)
myHelljumper Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 One problem, one explanation, tons of bullshit how great RAZBAM is. Stop this stupid spam guys - you will not get a free copy of Razbam next plane ;) Please guys, don't feed the troll. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
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