can we fix things, over breaking stuff every update?

[kainhall]

when hte mig 21 first came out....

the radar worked

it didnt crash to desktop

it didnt cause huge drops in FPS, eventually locking up the game...

 

now we have all of the above...

 

recently, it started to crash to desktop...

then that got fixed, but flying for more than 5 mins causes FPS to hit 0....

 

 

 

why is it that every update fixes around 5 things, but breaks 7 things?

 

this has happened every update for the last 6 months....and its not just the mig 21 and leatherneck...

 

havent been able to fly the 21 for a month now....my favorite aircraft to extract f-15 tears....

 

 

first it used about half of my keys, having to reactivate every patch.

now i cant play it AT ALL....:furious:

Edited October 4, 2016 by BIGNEWY
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[MiG21bisFishbedL]

great post

[NeilWillis]

So you think they do it deliberately? Interesting thought, but I suspect it has a lot to do with the fact that Leatherneck don't have control over what code is changed in the host software package.

 

Another small, but significant point - the MiG-21Bis DID cause huge frame rate drops when it was first released, and Leatherneck quickly resolved the issue. It also used to cause huge lag spikes in multiplayer servers when someone joined in a MiG-21.

 

I am however sure Leatherneck had no clue we'd like for stuff not to break every time there is an update, so I am sure they're hugely grateful for you pointing this out to them!

[Schmidtfire]

It's not often but this time I fully agree with NeilWills. Sure there was a point a couple of months ago I rarely flew the MiG21 because of different issues and bugs. But the last few patches has been greater than ever. No more stuttering when joining in MP, way better performance, the external model has never looked better etc.

 

There are still some tweaking to do, like ASP functionality, pilot in cockpit etc. But It has never been as enjoyable as it is right now. Is it perfect? No. But it's damn good and will probably be regarded as a "classic" DCS release down the line :thumbup:

[kainhall]

and how can you enjoy it right now?

if your not crashing....your getting 0 fps and crashing after 5 to 10 mins.....

 

CURRENTLY....ITS BRO-KEN!!!

 

i love the out of the mig 21../..WHEN I CAN ACTUALLY FLY IT

Edited October 4, 2016 by BIGNEWY
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[razo+r]

and how can you enjoy it right now?

if your not crashing....your getting 0 fps and crashing after 5 to 10 mins.....

 

CURRENTLY....ITS BRO-KEN!!!

 

i love the out of the mig 21../..WHEN I CAN ACTUALLY FLY IT

 

What if you would open a thread and ask ED why your system is crashing???

 

Instead of just raging, you could... ask them or let you help by them, which would make more sense

Edited October 4, 2016 by BIGNEWY
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[probad]

i certainly dont experience anywhere as many issues as you're describing, so its hardly correct to say the module is broken. broken for you maybe, but inherently broken, no.

 

you havent provided any information that might even help people start to address your problems, all you're doing is being petulant.

[cro_mig_21]

Yep, also enjoying the fishbed without any significant problems...I opened the thread about fps issues but that got sorted out (the problem was on my end)..

[BIGNEWY]

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[simapajik]

when hte mig 21 first came out....

the radar worked

it didnt crash to desktop

it didnt cause huge drops in FPS, eventually locking up the game...

 

now we have all of the above...

 

recently, it started to crash to desktop...

then that got fixed, but flying for more than 5 mins causes FPS to hit 0....

 

 

 

why is it that every update fixes around 5 things, but breaks 7 things?

 

this has happened every update for the last 6 months....and its not just the mig 21 and leatherneck...

 

havent been able to fly the 21 for a month now....my favorite aircraft to extract f-15 tears....

 

 

first it used about half of my keys, having to reactivate every patch.

now i cant play it AT ALL....:furious:

 

 

Beware of words. For my negative comments Cobra847 called me a megalomaniac who jumps from fiber to fiber. :thumbup: Exceeded the bounds of decency. I wish him the contribution of the answer, but I have already found it. I think it would be a good place insults users module, the module to work hard so that after two years was applicable. Peace and I agree. :smilewink:

[Kobymaru]

Hi, I haven't stared tha game in a while. Can someone tell me if the upside-down radar has been fixed yet?

[probad]

radar is working well now.

[Dugong]

Air to Ground computation seems to have broken though, previously it computed impact point for guns and rockets (but not bombs). Now the reticle is stuck in the boresight position

[simapajik]

Hi, I haven't stared tha game in a while. Can someone tell me if the upside-down radar has been fixed yet?

 

 

Yes radar worked properly only upside down. Stabilization of the beam to be at a pitch of + 8 degrees and -25 degrees. The changelog does not mention the repair of radar from the latest bug. There is only written that on the radar is still working and tested.

[simapajik]

Air to Ground computation seems to have broken though, previously it computed impact point for guns and rockets (but not bombs). Now the reticle is stuck in the boresight position

 

 

No. Shooting air to ground is not accurate. Several times notified. In version DCS World 1.2.16 destruction of a target using a cannon with 100 percent accuracy. Today in version 1.5.4 while preserving procedures according to the manual, you can not hit the target.

[Art-J]

No. Shooting air to ground is not accurate. Several times notified. In version DCS World 1.2.16 destruction of a target using a cannon with 100 percent accuracy. Today in version 1.5.4 while preserving procedures according to the manual, you can not hit the target.

 

That's because in 1.2.16 the plane had unrealistic gunsight features (CCIP). Nowadays, it's getting closer to how real thing operated. Unfortunately, that means the LN's manual is outdated and should not be used as a resource for learning how to set up and use the gunsight.

 

I agree that if manual was updated, the would be less confusion amongst new customers who bought this module. But then again, the sight still seems to be a bit WIP, so maybe it's too early for such an update.

[Retu81]

when hte mig 21 first came out....

the radar worked

it didnt crash to desktop

it didnt cause huge drops in FPS, eventually locking up the game...

 

now we have all of the above...

 

recently, it started to crash to desktop...

then that got fixed, but flying for more than 5 mins causes FPS to hit 0....

 

 

 

why is it that every update fixes around 5 things, but breaks 7 things?

 

this has happened every update for the last 6 months....and its not just the mig 21 and leatherneck...

 

havent been able to fly the 21 for a month now....my favorite aircraft to extract f-15 tears....

 

 

first it used about half of my keys, having to reactivate every patch.

now i cant play it AT ALL....:furious:

 

Programming in a nutshell:

 

[Cobra847]

Yes radar worked properly only upside down. Stabilization of the beam to be at a pitch of + 8 degrees and -25 degrees. The changelog does not mention the repair of radar from the latest bug. There is only written that on the radar is still working and tested.

 

This bug has been fixed for several patches, and it was noted as fixed here in the forum.