Real Spitfire engine sound

[Hawkeye60]

Found at the British Library Board.

 

Link below.

 

We just need permission to use this.

 

 

• Type
   
  sound
  
• Duration
   
  00:05:29
  
• Shelf mark
   
  C322/3
  
• Recording date
   
  1987-05-03
  
• Is part of (Collection)
   
  Preserved Industry and Transport
  
• Recording locations
   
  Duxford Airfield, Cambridgeshire, England
  
• Recordist
   
  Bergonzi, Benet C.
  
• Description
   
  Mark IX Spitfire. Engine ticks over for several minutes before plane taxis away.
  

http://sounds.bl.uk/Environment/Soundscapes/027M-C0322X0003XX-0104V0

 

Update,

 

I have sent a request to the Board to be able to use these sounds.

 

They promise a reply in five days.

 

[Question]: Dear Sir's,

I would like permission to use the Spitfire engine sound in a simulator.

The sim is DCS World.

The sound would be available to install in the sim without charge of any kind.

Free.

Full credit and any copy write and usage restrictions shall be included.

 

This simulator is the most realistic one available today.

 

It would be a Honor to use the real sound for such a iconic aircraft.

 

You can see the sim at

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/world/

 

Thank you for your consideration of this matter.

 

Thank you for submitting your enquiry to The British Library Humanities Reference Service. You will receive a reply within 7 working days.

 

Update 2,

 

I did a engine sound test using some of the sites sound i recorded.

 

Two small snipits of sound substituted in the correct place.

 

Incredible! What a difference!

 

With a little bit of editing this will be the cat's Meow!:D

 

The search goes on for a good cannon sound.:)

Edited December 17, 2016 by Hawkeye60
E-mail - Sound test

[javelina1]

Excellent! thanks!

[Rlaxoxo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSyFvdP_Xxk

[Davee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSyFvdP_Xxk

 

Very nice!!

 

The flyby sounds in the SIM certainly need changing. They seem to be generic at this time. I have confidence this will be accomplished and helped by guys like you that can influence the ED team.

 

Cheers

[firmek]

IMO the in cockpit sounds in Spit are just on a different level compared to everything we've got so far. The sound was the fist thing that struck me after entering the pit and starting up the engines. Purely fantastic.

I don't know how much it reassembles the real think but I'm sure that ED did a great job of recording the real audio. This is no just a belief but looking on how the BS

there are much reasons to think that ED didn't do it in a different way.

I just hope that we're not running into situation that the sounds will be changed based on some yt videos.

[Art-J]

And I'm sure they didn't. The soundset, as of now, is a mixed bag of samples recorded off a Merlin (awesome idle sounds and high RPM external sounds), and some non-Merlin, generic engine samples, already heard in other sims. That's why although I admit the set is the best we've had for DCS warbird so far, it doesn't quite resemble the Spitfire (only in some specific RPM ranges), so the threads like this one will pop up every now and then until better default or custom set is ready.

 

Not a showstopper for me, though, at least not in this very early stage of post-release development.

[Rlaxoxo]

IMO the in cockpit sounds in Spit are just on a different level compared to everything we've got so far. The sound was the fist thing that struck me after entering the pit and starting up the engines. Purely fantastic.

I don't know how much it reassembles the real think but I'm sure that ED did a great job of recording the real audio. This is no just a belief but looking on how the BS

there are much reasons to think that ED didn't do it in a different way.

I just hope that we're not running into situation that the sounds will be changed based on some yt videos.

 

Some of the Engine sounds since the Hotfix arent even working so it's bugged atm

[Hawkeye60]

Spitfire engine sound

 

Received this today,

 

British Library Reference Services

 

Hello Greg Pearce,

Thank you for your enquiry.

I have sent your request to the relevant department curator. They will contact you directly.

Please be aware that the curator is away from the office and will not return until January 9th, 2017.

Best,

Steven Dryden

[javelina1]

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to some good news, and another Spit Mod! :-)

[Decibel dB]

Nice, thank you for that :)

[Hawkeye60]

Spitfire engine sound files

 

I received this reply from GB today,

 

 

Dear Greg,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

Which spitfire recording would you like to use? If you could send me details of the recording that interests you we can then take it from there.

 

Best wishes

 

Cheryl

 

 

Dear Greg,

 

Thanks for letting me know.

 

I can send you an mp3 for no charge or I can pass you over to our audio engineer who will be able to prepare a wav version from the original tape. This does carry a charge of £20 + VAT however and you would need to wait for the request to be scheduled.

 

Which option works best for you?

 

Best wishes

 

Cheryl

I have requested both files and will pay for the wav version.

I will post a link to the files when I have them so members may use them to create a sound mod.

Any usage restrictions will be included.

Stay tuned............

[Markindel]

Thanks Gregory.

[javelina1]

Hey now, that's cool they're willing to allow the usage. nice!

[Hawkeye60]

Which spitfire recording would you like to use?

 

I found this statement the most interesting!

 

Wait till I get my hands, so to speak, on that engineer!:D

 

Stay tuned..............

[Hawkeye60]

Received this e-mail today!

 

 

Dear Greg,

 

I’ll send the mp3 later on this morning via Wetransfer so please look out for an email from them.

 

I have also attached a sound archive copying form which you will need to complete and then forward to our audio engineer Tom Ruane (email tom.ruane@bl.uk). I’ve filled in the recording details & description of use for you, so that just leaves full contact details and specifics regarding the format (bit depth, sampling rate etc) for you to complete.

 

Please feel free to mention that you have already been in contact with me about the recording and I’ve quoted you a £20 + VAT copying fee.

 

The required credit will be “courtesy of the British Library Board”.

 

Best wishes

 

Cheryl

 

Cheryl Tipp

Curator, Wildlife and Environmental Sounds

Sound and Vision

The British Library

96 Euston Rd

London NW1 2DB

United Kingdom

 

MP3 file below

 

I will provide a link to the wave file when I have it.

 

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DATE

1/11/17

DATE

Edited January 11, 2017 by Hawkeye60
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[flyingscotsman]

Very British of us

 

I found this statement the most interesting!

 

Wait till I get my hands, so to speak, on that engineer!:D

 

Stay tuned..............

 

Yes we're still a bit formal, I've just finished working with an American company and now with a very British institution....I'm struggling with the formality required lol.

 

So did they hint how many recordings they have?

Excellent work thank you:thumbup:

[Hawkeye60]

So did they hint how many recordings they have?

 

No and I have not heard from the engineer yet.

 

I will e-mail Cheryl Tipp on Monday and ask her to check that my e-mail to the engineer was received in the correct dept.

 

Waiting is the hard part!

[Hawkeye60]

Sent today to GB.

 

Good day,

 

I have sent the form via email to the address you provided.

 

I have not heard back after a week.

 

Could you check to see that the form arrived in the correct dept. and to the correct person?

 

If there are other Spitfire engine sounds available, I would be interested in those as well.

 

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Waiting.....................................

[Marklar]

 

I recorder it over a year ago when visiting RAF museum in London.

[Rlaxoxo]

 

I recorder it over a year ago when visiting RAF museum in London.

 

See that kid's reaction at 0:43 seconds?

 

...

Yea ... I did the same

[1.JaVA_Platypus]

I thought that ED has close ties to "The fighter collection". (also see their logo on top of this page :thumbup:) You know, the guys who have the biggest spitfire collection on earth? :music_whistling:

[Python]

This thread is very interesting...

[Hawkeye60]

Received today,

 

 

Dear Guy Pearce,

 

Thank you for your Sound Copy request.

 

The cost of transferring NP10460 R1 C3: Spitfire starts up close to recordist to WAV file will be £54 (£45 + VAT).

 

We require payment in advance and can take a credit card number or a cheque in sterling drawn on a UK branch, made payable to "The British Library. Let me know if you would like to pay by card and I will send you contact details and an order number for our Finance department.

 

Please contact me if you have any questions.

 

Regards,

Tom Ruane

Stay tuned...............

[Hawkeye60]

Status update

 

Here is where we are at.

 

Weeks later!

 

I sent the request form to the engineering dept.

 

I did not get a reply.

 

I waited...................................................

 

I sent another e-mail to Miss Tipp.

 

One week later she responds the the engineer never received the form.

 

I send the form to her so she may carry it to him.

 

One week later, he responds with a request number and a Phone number to call to pay the fee.

 

He will then transfer the audio.

 

I have to have the phone company UNLOCK the phone line so I may make a international call!

 

I call the number and after 10 rings, the answering machine picks up.

 

I leave a message. :cry:

[kubanloewe]

DCS Merlin SPitfire IX has some sounds from the more aggressive sounding Griffon engine ! This is a huge downside for me for DCS reputation as a good researching sim team.

There are so MANY examples of sounds from these two completely different sounding engines that i cannot understand why they mixed it up !?

A Merlin Spit sounds nice and brave and perhaps a bit louder in the IX while under more boost; P51D as well. BUT a Griffon engine with much more displacement (like DB605) is like day and night !! OMG, even Warthunder did it better .....