drPhibes Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Why dont the plebs just learn Swedish ^^. I agree. With a few strange exceptions, Swedish is quite easy to understand. It's not like it's Danish, which nobody understands (not even the Danes).
Johnny Dioxin Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Every time I'm in Sweden it’s almost like listening to one continues flow of sounds without any spaces whatsoever :). Ha ha - that's what Greek sounded like to me, to start with! :thumbup: @ Almaril - yes, those are quite easy to work out. Rig: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; Pimax Crystal Light I'm learning to fly - but I ain't got wings With my head in VR - it's the next best thing!
Snail Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 It's like the fancy liveries that will become available: if you want to have it as realistic as possible, then you have to learn some Swedish words. If you want it somewhat less realistic, you choose for the English cockpit. For me only Swedish would be fine (because like German, a combination of Dutch and English also makes it easier to understand Swedish). How (s)low can you go
renhanxue Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) I have a hard time thinking of a more obscure and practically useless skill to learn than early 1970's military aviation jargon, long out of use, in a language spoken by less than 0.15% of the world's population, where said jargon is also highly specific to a long retired aircraft of which less than 150 airframes were ever built, and only one of which remains flying today. Which of course means that yes you should learn it you numbnut, what are you waiting for? Do you even realize what kind of stupidly exclusive club doing that puts you in? The only people who ever had any reason to learn this stuff were the pilots, and there really weren't very many of those. We're talking about maybe a couple thousand people, tops. It's the best combination of hipster and nerd cred you'll ever come across! Edited January 23, 2017 by renhanxue
Sporg Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 I have a hard time thinking of a more obscure and practically useless skill to learn than early 1970's military aviation jargon, long out of use, in a language spoken by less than 0.15% of the world's population, where said jargon is also highly specific to a long retired aircraft of which less than 150 airframes were ever built, and only one of which remains flying today. Which of course means that yes you should learn it you numbnut, what are you waiting for? Do you even realize what kind of stupidly exclusive club doing that puts you in? The only people who ever had any reason to learn this stuff were the pilots, and there really weren't very many of those. We're talking about maybe a couple thousand people, tops. It's the best combination of hipster and nerd cred you'll ever come across! He he, brilliant. :D :thumbup: Now we're at it, I would really like if LN (or someone else) could make a full Swedish ATC, ground crew, wingman pack, so we could get the true immersion of the 0.15% ;) :D Actually, tbh, that's just about all I miss from all those fine pre-view videos out there. :) System specs: Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440) Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use
Johnny Dioxin Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 It's like the fancy liveries that will become available: if you want to have it as realistic as possible, then you have to learn some Swedish words. If you want it somewhat less realistic, you choose for the English cockpit. I disagree with this. You are playing a Swedish pilot in a Swedish aircraft. So you would have a perfect understanding of what the text says, without the slightest doubt or hesitation. If the aircraft were exported to the RAF (or USAF or RAAF, RNZAF etc) it would have English text put into the cockpit - at least, if it were to be a front line aircraft - for this very reason. The pilot must know what is there without any hesitation - well, it would be in his native tongue. It seems to be a struggle to get this over (said it so many times for people who insist it isn't realistic with other modules), so I 'll leave it at that. Rig: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; Pimax Crystal Light I'm learning to fly - but I ain't got wings With my head in VR - it's the next best thing!
mattebubben Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 I disagree with this. You are playing a Swedish pilot in a Swedish aircraft. So you would have a perfect understanding of what the text says, without the slightest doubt or hesitation. If the aircraft were exported to the RAF (or USAF or RAAF, RNZAF etc) it would have English text put into the cockpit - at least, if it were to be a front line aircraft - for this very reason. The pilot must know what is there without any hesitation - well, it would be in his native tongue. It seems to be a struggle to get this over (said it so many times for people who insist it isn't realistic with other modules), so I 'll leave it at that. Not all nationalities have the text in their Native Languages. Though an export Viggen would probably have had the text in what ever language the nation in question wanted.
CrimsonGhost Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Side note for what it's worth. English is the international language of aviation. i7-7700K @ 5.2Ghz SLI 1080Ti 64GB GSkill Trident Z RGB 4133 Asus Maximus IX Extreme Custom Water Cooling Loop TM Warthog/ MFG Crosswind
mattebubben Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Side note for what it's worth. English is the international language of aviation. Its the Language of Civilian Aviation. Not Military Aviation.
Grundar Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 My previous joke post aside, I actually enjoy the original language cockpits, it just adds to the immersion for me plus adds some more challenge. It can be a little frustrating when you are looking for a switch and you can't instantly spot what you want but I think it does result in more attention being paid to the operation of the aircraft as a whole.
funkyfranky Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Maybe it is because of many happy holidays canoeing on Swedish lakes, maybe it is because Jan-Ove Waldner was my role model in table tennis or Stefan Edberg in tennis when I was a kid, maybe it is because I like the Scandinavian approach to life, maybe... :thumbup: But there is NO WAY I'm gonna switch to an English cockpit :D PS: Of course, that's just me. And it is great that LN support an English version for people who think differently. A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | RTX 4090 | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | Quest 3 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss
Snail Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 I disagree with this. You are playing a Swedish pilot in a Swedish aircraft. So you would have a perfect understanding of what the text says, without the slightest doubt or hesitation. If the aircraft were exported to the RAF (or USAF or RAAF, RNZAF etc) it would have English text put into the cockpit - at least, if it were to be a front line aircraft - for this very reason. The pilot must know what is there without any hesitation - well, it would be in his native tongue. It seems to be a struggle to get this over (said it so many times for people who insist it isn't realistic with other modules), so I 'll leave it at that. The word If says it all: that never happened. But I have no problems with an option for an English cockpit: it will add to the popularity and use of the aircraft within DCS which is fine of course. How (s)low can you go
Pocket Sized Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 If you think about it, every plane has its own tongue of sorts. It comes in the form of acronyms, abbreviations, and switch positions. No matter what language it is based on, you'll still have to learn it. DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works.
grunf Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 English cockpit is not mandatory for me, Swedish one would be perfectly fine. I have M2000C and Gazelle, both have French cockpits only, which was never an issue. I even learned some French words. :D
spiddx Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) English cockpit is not mandatory for me, Swedish one would be perfectly fine. I have M2000C and Gazelle, both have French cockpits only, which was never an issue. Agreed. For each foreign language cockpit I have to 'kind of' memorize maybe 10 to 15 words max to find my way around. After a little practice I should be able to get by just by knowing the position of the switches. And if in doubt or for less common switches I always have the English tool tips. So I'll definitely use the Swedish cockpit. But great to have the English option for people who really want it. PS: Exception to the rule for me are the Russian pits. Playing this game for a couple of years now (and probably a year MiG-21 exclusively) I have to admit I'm still struggling with the cyrillic letters. Might be a sign that I'm getting old. :) I even learned some French words. Yeah thanks to the Viggen a lot of people will remember the Swedish term for Auto Throttle! Edited January 24, 2017 by spiddx Specs: i9 10900K @ 5.1 GHz, EVGA GTX 1080Ti, MSI Z490 MEG Godlike, 32GB DDR4 @ 3600, Win 10, Samsung S34E790C, Vive, TIR5, 10cm extended Warthog on WarBRD, Crosswinds
theGozr Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 English yes as in Real Life.. foreign aircraft get English translation on top.. 1 Fly it like you stole it..
theGozr Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 The mouse roll over tips are too slow to respond with Track IR so it's a pain .. Fly it like you stole it..
Dave317 Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Did this not make it? I can't see an option for it.
LeCuvier Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 I will use the Swedish version for sure. Written Swedish is very similar to German; I will enjoy figuring it out. But certainly if ED wants to have a market in countries who by principle don't learn "foreign languages", and those for which Swedish is really difficult to understand, an English option is necessary. LeCuvier Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i7-4790 CPU |16 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| MSI GTX-1080 Gaming 8 GB| Acer XB270HU | TM Warthog HOTAS | VKB Gladiator Pro | MongoosT-50 | MFG Crosswind Pedals | TrackIR 5
Simon1279 Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Why dont the plebs just learn Swedish ^^. If we all had to learn English its just fair for them to learn Swedish in return is it not? ^^. Or even better Italian ^^ :lol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I7 8700K @ 4.9 ghz, SSD 850 evo, MSI Z370 Gaming Pro, GTX 1080Ti, F/A-18C in the garage, F-16C in the backyard, F-14B in the garden
oskich Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Yeah thanks to the Viggen a lot of people will remember the Swedish term for Auto Throttle! My American friend's favourite Swedish word is "Slut-station" - While using the public transport here in Stockholm - Means "End station" ;-) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Scooternutz Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 That auto fart control, though... My wife would love this control option! [sIGPIC]https://drive.google.com/file/d/16rUBmmJR7A3YGZVGPGskxG1XtvulGojJ/view?usp=sharing[/sIGPIC]
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