Introducing the VKB-Sim ‘Modern Combat Grip’ (MCG)

[rrohde]

Yep sorry should have added that but evwn without it wants to lean so i am waiting for the Pro, it cants forward about 10 degrees.

 

Just keep in mind that the center is not based on the grip's position, but the center of the cam. So when you calibrate correctly, even with a leaning grip, the center will always return to dead center since the MaRS sensor "looks" at the cam's center - wherever that may be in relation to the grip. This "cam loading" is nicely compensated for in the software.

Edited September 30, 2017 by rrohde

[microvax]

January 2018 for EU, so much for global launch. :/

[Mars Exulte]

HYPE TRAIN IS GO! MOVING OUT!

[Lenux]

How long would take the delivery, if someone from Canada ( Montreal ) would order it ?

Is there a button, or something else ?

Edited September 30, 2017 by Lenux

[rrohde]

@Lenux: If items are in stock at VKB HQ they drop ship usually within 7 business days after processing the order.

 

That what you highlighted there is indeed that "pinky switch" that was moved up and to the left a bit due the internal design of the grip. It's now more of a middle finger button, but hey... at least we got that extra button.

[Lenux]

Where exactly is situated this button, now ?

Same like in the image ?

[rrohde]

Yes... right there where it belongs :)

[microvax]

Is the delay for european market until january confirmed or is that just a precaution ?

 

Until now I think vkb said global release with slight delay in europe. Which sounded like a few weeks.

 

january 2018 sounds more like 10 weeks + delay.

 

I for sure was happy to hear this time the difference between american and european market wasnt going to be as big, but it would be nice to have a confirmation on what will most likely hold up to be true. :)

 

Definitely looking forward to it.

[rrohde]

Well, pre-ordering doesn't mean the MCG will ship today or tomorrow. VKB HQ estimated the shipping date for the North American orders around November 1 - which could still slip a little if there's any unforeseen circumstances.

[WindyTX]

Interesting, what kind of cam and springs are you running? I was thinking about getting the gunfighter and use the wh grip before eventualy buying the new grip.

Ok I need to be precise here, the Warthog stick top was great for fixed wing flying with the right combo of springs with the VKB gymbal , far superior to the TM gymbal. I just could not find a Helo combo that worked for me with the heavy warthog sticktop, you may find some setting that works for you. The gunfighter gymbal is great piece of kit and far superior to the Thrustmaster one. I would not hesitate to recommend buying the gunfighter to use with the Warthog stick top.

 

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[tintifaxl]

Is the delay for european market until january confirmed or is that just a precaution ?

 

Until now I think vkb said global release with slight delay in europe. Which sounded like a few weeks.

 

january 2018 sounds more like 10 weeks + delay.

 

I for sure was happy to hear this time the difference between american and european market wasnt going to be as big, but it would be nice to have a confirmation on what will most likely hold up to be true. :)

 

Definitely looking forward to it.

 

Let's face it: eu is not an important market for VKB.

[Hoffster]

Ok I need to be precise here, the Warthog stick top was great for fixed wing flying with the right combo of springs with the VKB gymbal , far superior to the TM gymbal. I just could not find a Helo combo that worked for me with the heavy warthog sticktop, you may find some setting that works for you. The gunfighter gymbal is great piece of kit and far superior to the Thrustmaster one. I would not hesitate to recommend buying the gunfighter to use with the Warthog stick top.

 

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Got it, thanks.

[Fri13]

@Lenux: If items are in stock at VKB HQ they drop ship usually within 7 business days after processing the order.

 

That what you highlighted there is indeed that "pinky switch" that was moved up and to the left a bit due the internal design of the grip. It's now more of a middle finger button, but hey... at least we got that extra button.

Better i think. As pinky is strongest finger in a hand, it helps to get good grip from a stick while middle finger can be used to gently press a button without loosing a grip.

 

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I usually post from my phone so please excuse any typos, inappropriate punctuation and capitalization, missing words and general lack of cohesion and sense in my posts.....

[dburne]

Order placed for the 3 pin MCG Pro with English labels.

 

Hopefully I ordered the right one.

[Lenux]

What's the point with 3 pin / 5 pin ?

I wish i could find something like this base, for the VKB MCG Pro :)

Any chances ??

Edited October 1, 2017 by Lenux

[aaron886]

5-pin is legacy... that's the old Mamba connector. The new stuff use a 3-pin connector.

[dburne]

What's the point with 3 pin / 5 pin ?

 

5 pin

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-mcg-mg-pro

 

Compatible with Vintage Mamba and Gladiator Pro Mk 1

 

3 pin

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-mcg-pro

 

Compatible with original Gunfighter ( purchased prior to Oct 1) and 3 pin Gladiator Pro Mk II.

 

3 pin MCG Pro rev B

 

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-mcg-pro-rev-b

 

Rev B compatible with Gunfighter Rev B ( produced after Oct 1).

[Lenux]

Thank you, dburne.

But on the VKB website, there are no base for order.

What am I doing with the VKB MCG Pro, if i order only the grip ? :)

[StandingCow]

Anyone happen to have the caliper measurements for the springs? I know they are on the VKB forum somewhere but I can't find the post.

[microvax]

Let's face it: eu is not an important market for VKB.

 

I dont think that is the case at least if I take statistics from my youtube channel that indicates that DCS online community of Germany, UK and Sweden together is already similar size or bigger then that of the USA. Now that is a small sample size but yeah. I dont think thats the case.

 

I know its not as easy to get going selling a piece of electronics in the EU etc. but I just got my hopes up lol. :D

[Sokol1_br]

Where exactly is situated this button, now ?

Same like in the image ?

 

If you have "normal/big" size hand this lateral button sit under your ring finger, if have small hands may fit under your little/pinky finger - with palm rest in upper position, see:

 

http://i.imgur.com/mbYxlzX.jpg

 

But on the VKB website, there are no base for order.

 

Lenux,

 

Are you the Avyx in other forum?

 

VKB base + grips = in controllers:

 

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product_cat=vkb-controllers

 

VKB base only - option interesting for "F-16'ish" Warthog/Cougar grips owners:

 

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gladiator-pro-mk-ii-base-only

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gunfighter-revb-base-only

 

What am I doing with the VKB MCG Pro, if i order only the grip ? :)

 

Well, can use as decorative piece. :D

 

http://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=10075&t=1&sid=d614dc4a1c7c469f016683d0b36b01ae

Edited October 1, 2017 by Sokol1_br

[Akatsuki]

So, EU folks: Preorder in january 2018 and start shipping february.

 

Complete production process for the first run should take about three month. Currently we expect to open ordering for MCG in January, 2018 and start shipping in February.

 

https://flightsimcontrols.com/2017/10/mcg-update-oct17/

 

I don't know if he's being cautious about dates or else...

[tintifaxl]

I dont think that is the case at least if I take statistics from my youtube channel that indicates that DCS online community of Germany, UK and Sweden together is already similar size or bigger then that of the USA. Now that is a small sample size but yeah. I dont think thats the case.

 

I know its not as easy to get going selling a piece of electronics in the EU etc. but I just got my hopes up lol. :D

 

I was only indicating that FSC Europe is sitting on their hands in comparison to VKB USA and VKB HQ seems to not care about it.

 

FSC states they are not only the distributor for the EU but for South America, the Far and Middle East and Australia, too, but they can't offer the goods because of EU regulations? Strange.

[microvax]

I was only indicating that FSC Europe is sitting on their hands in comparison to VKB USA and VKB HQ seems to not care about it.

 

FSC states they are not only the distributor for the EU but for South America, the Far and Middle East and Australia, too, but they can't offer the goods because of EU regulations? Strange.

 

The moment you import them you can have problems, the initial pebble had problems with that and didnt get allowed to get imported initially iirc.

[AeroGator]

I was only indicating that FSC Europe is sitting on their hands in comparison to VKB USA and VKB HQ seems to not care about it.

FSC states they are not only the distributor for the EU but for South America, the Far and Middle East and Australia, too, but they can't offer the goods because of EU regulations? Strange.

Yeah it is strange indeed - the obstacles presented by Eurobureaucracy only become obvious when you bump into them, and then you suddenly find yourself wondering how really strange it is that the shipment to Europe takes twice as long (and longer!) to reach Europe than that to US, and also costs a lot more at the same time*. Plus outrageous taxation. Plus EU member countries' customs practices which are simply shocking: you would not believe things like these happen in Europe in 21st century - maybe in 1970s in the Soviet Empire, but no, no, not here, not now. But it does happen here and now.

Saying this I'm not meaning that we're ideal, or our European partners are perfect.

We might really need to think about looking for more outlets in places like Middle East and Africa. Alternative dealerships in Europe? - talk to us, if you are ready to lend a hand. We're open to everything that would help us keep our customers happy.

 

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* yes it does cost considerably more, but the pre-tax price is the same as that in the US; isn't this strange?