F-14 v A-4 Top Gun

[Dehuman]

There are lots of events that didn't receive much press, but made the life of a USN Tomcat pilot quite interesting - even in "Peacetime".

 

-Nick

 

Understandable for fighter pilots to behave like that. All the thrill of combat without having the unpleasant side of killing people / being killed.

 

Whenever I hear Americans or Brits complaining that they were "aggressively" and "unprofessionally" intercepted by Russian or Chinese fighters I smile. Aggressive, doubt it, having a good time, definitely.

[Robert31178]

I like the pics of F-14 guys holding up nudey mags for Bear crews to peep. Looks like all were just being friendly while testing the waters / intel gathering.

 

There's a book called "The Scream Of Eagles" by Robert Wilcox that gets all into the weeds on Top Gun and the guys who stood it up. The book is really about the steps the USN took to get the Phantom to finish Vietnam out with an 11:1 kill ratio, but they do discuss flying the TA-4 quite a bit and why it was such a good aircraft to train against. I got really into it when I was trying to be a hot dog in Strike fighters fly Rhinos and it remains one of my favs. If you want to get into Top Gun and how it was in the early 70's in the USN pick it up.

 

Sorry, this was not a plug for the book intentionally, it was just to point out that there is some good reading about the A-4 as an adversary and I got sidetracked lol.....

 

~S

[shonist]

im planning to see this movie you all like just to see why you liked it much...

[Sideswipe]

im planning to see this movie you all like just to see why you liked it much...

 

Are you saying you are on a Tomcat forum but haven't seen the movie that stars the Tomcat?:huh:

[probad]

real fans watch final countdown

[BlackLion213]

real fans watch final countdown

 

Why is that?

 

-Nick

[Dino Might]

real fans watch final countdown

 

And real lovers watch both...weekly...

[Alicatt]

Why is that?

 

-Nick

 

Do you have Zero interest in the Final Countdown?

 

:smilewink:

[drPhibes]

Why is that?

 

-Nick

 

Because, with the exception of a few nice flying scenes (f14 vs. a4 over the desert etc), TG isn't really worth watching. I'm not saying that the Final Countdown is the best movie in the world, but it's far from as bad as Top Gun.

[1stBEAST]

only thing that bothers me everytime i watch final countdown is, how intact the Zero is after it was hit bei 20mm rounds.

 

but it is a fun movie, with the good old Carrier Air Wing

A-6, A-7, RF-8, F14, etc

 

there are so many good scence in the movie.

also the whole process of info gathering and so on at the start of the "incursion" was good portrayed

Edited April 25, 2017 by 1stBEAST

[Robert31178]

Yeah beast lol, specifically in light of just how not tough a Zeke was compared to anything else the 20mm might be used on.

[lunaticfringe]

Real fans watch Speed and Angels, and get mad at the interspersed F/A-18 cockpit footage.

[probad]

aw no fair speed and angels was a docu

 

might as well bring out the penninsulaseniors presentation if you're gonna raise the bar that high

[lunaticfringe]

Nah, if I'm gonna raise a bar, I'll just let Snort kill two Adversary F-5s alone during Fighter Derby.

[captain_dalan]

Real fans watch Speed and Angels, and get mad at the interspersed F/A-18 cockpit footage.

 

I was about to say "you nailed it!", but then this came:

 

aw no fair speed and angels was a docu

 

might as well bring out the peninsula seniors presentation if you're gonna raise the bar that high

 

Hell yeah!:thumbup:

 

As for TFC VS TG.....both have some good footage of our favorite bird, but TFC has shots more indicative of its flying characteristics and more (to me) appealing liveries. I'm a big fan of the old high visibility schemes (VF-1, VF-143 and FV-84 especially). TG has more aerial shots though and higher quality camera work. So.....i like them both i guess, TFC just a wee bit more because of the above mentioned. What i like about TG (and what i find quite surprising) is that for an 80s movie, it's unusually "clean".

[bC3660]

My DAD was in the Final Count Down working the flight deck with the A-6 squadron. I was in the opening of Top Gun final checking the A-7 on cat 2.

[CheckGear]

My DAD was in the Final Count Down working the flight deck with the A-6 squadron. I was in the opening of Top Gun final checking the A-7 on cat 2.

 

That's incredible - two generations, each appearing in F-14 films! You make me jealous. :thumbup:

[Isegrim]

real fans watch final countdown

 

 

" nAhhh Contact " :D

[Kev2go]

actually we should instead be comparing the Oscar EW Fallus tactical fighter bomber against the Mig28 :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

Topper Harley > Maverick XD

Edited May 1, 2017 by Kev2go

[Robert31178]

Lol great flick Kev, good pick!!!

[bC3660]

Can I get "The NAVY" on the side of my F-14?

[Kirk66]

TFC and Hot Shots totally blow away TG.

 

From my experience in the fighter business (including some engagements against F-14s; won some, lost some...), the ONLY realistic scene in the movie is the "You lost that loving feeling" bar scene.

 

Except real fighter pilots/WSOs/RIOs would be wearing sweaty flight suits and helmet hair...

 

Vulture

[probad]

hotshots has legit airplane sequences when you look at the spread of whats out there

 

...i mean, remember this???

 

bKsreHMX3xE

 

 

 

 

 

 

MASTER

CAUTION

[Kev2go]

Can I get "The NAVY" on the side of my F-14?

 

it would also be a nice alternative skin for a potential Folland Gnat module;)

[Kev2go]

hotshots has legit airplane sequences when you look at the spread of whats out there

 

...i mean, remember this???

 

 

MASTER

CAUTION

 

OR this:

 

p51 strafing and bombing while flying just above ground level.

 

Edited May 1, 2017 by Kev2go