2BAG_Inferno Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 TARPS Will it be available in DCS?:) 2-я Боевая Авиа Группа|Ютуб | Asus p8h67 v3.0 rev B3 | Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3 gHz | RAM Kingston DDR3 20GB | Palit GTX 670 Jet Stream 2GB (:(умерла)| Gigabyte GTX 1070 Windforce OC 8Gb | 1920x1080 | РУС - VPC MongoosT-50 Black Edition Flightstick | РУД - Saitek X52 | VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base + VPC SharKa-50 Grip | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | Track IR5 + TrackClip pro "Клиент вырос, новый клиент тупой, его мало интересует авиация..." (с) Неизвестный весёлый пилот.
Tirak Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 TARPS Will it be available in DCS?:) Yeah Cobra said they're going to model it.
2BAG_Inferno Posted May 26, 2017 Author Posted May 26, 2017 nice:) 2-я Боевая Авиа Группа|Ютуб | Asus p8h67 v3.0 rev B3 | Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3 gHz | RAM Kingston DDR3 20GB | Palit GTX 670 Jet Stream 2GB (:(умерла)| Gigabyte GTX 1070 Windforce OC 8Gb | 1920x1080 | РУС - VPC MongoosT-50 Black Edition Flightstick | РУД - Saitek X52 | VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base + VPC SharKa-50 Grip | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | Track IR5 + TrackClip pro "Клиент вырос, новый клиент тупой, его мало интересует авиация..." (с) Неизвестный весёлый пилот.
Destroyer37 Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Yeah Cobra said they're going to model it. Nice, do you have a source for this? Specs:Fractal Design Define R5 Black, ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E, Intel Core i5-8600K Coffee Lake @ 5.1 GHz, MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X, Corsair H110i, G.Skill TridentZ 32GB (2x16GB), Samsung 960 Evo M.2 500GB SSD
probad Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 We're focusing on the essence of what a Tomcat is + some more to begin with (e.g. TARPS). We have plenty of tricks up our sleeve for the future, however. We realize what you guys want. For now it's just a matter of development resources and time. here we go all hail forumsearch
ked Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 some people also asked about lantirn, but this pod is way harder to implement so they said they'd just wait for ED to do it or wait till it's released and they can finance it (because this is not planned right now) And tbh we've been waiting too long already release the damn thing :p
AG-51_Razor Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Unless I misunderstood the description in Wikipedia, it seems to me that, other than a control head in the aft cockpit and a switch in the front, there is nothing to "see" with the TARPS installed. I don't understand what it is that one would expect with a 'properly modeled' TARPS included with the module. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
swither Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Unless I misunderstood the description in Wikipedia, it seems to me that, other than a control head in the aft cockpit and a switch in the front, there is nothing to "see" with the TARPS installed. I don't understand what it is that one would expect with a 'properly modeled' TARPS included with the module. We have some quite cool ideas for this, not ready to share yet though! :) /Daniel Heatblur Simulations
Arsonist Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Hm, I was under the impression that the reason for not having Lantrin right from the modules release, was due to the need of significantly changing the cockpit model to account for the Lantrin functionality, like its screen. Thus, Lantrin was discussed (maybe!) to be added at a later point in time. I can't remember to have read a discussion, or statements, that the implementation of the pod itself was the issue. It is true, there are some 3rd party developers who are waiting for the implementation of certain features by ED, for instance Razbam with the ground radar. However, this hasn't been the case for Leatherneck/Heatblur. Am I missing something here? some people also asked about lantirn, but this pod is way harder to implement so they said they'd just wait for ED to do it or wait till it's released and they can finance it (because this is not planned right now) And tbh we've been waiting too long already release the damn thing :p
ked Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Check this out : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3080998&postcount=19 From this post: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=181660
swither Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Hm, I was under the impression that the reason for not having Lantrin right from the modules release, was due to the need of significantly changing the cockpit model to account for the Lantrin functionality, like its screen. Thus, Lantrin was discussed (maybe!) to be added at a later point in time. I can't remember to have read a discussion, or statements, that the implementation of the pod itself was the issue. It is true, there are some 3rd party developers who are waiting for the implementation of certain features by ED, for instance Razbam with the ground radar. However, this hasn't been the case for Leatherneck/Heatblur. Am I missing something here? you're right, this has nothing to do with ED. :) /Daniel Heatblur Simulations
crow0827 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) @cobra847 I heard that F-14D has just one Control Panel(TARPS RECON Control Panel or LANTIRN Control Panel). https://twitter.com/dayzjp/status/875400330065793024 Does F-14B has different RIO cockpit same as D? Is it able to change with REARM Menu? Only changing from Mission Editor, it isn't usuful. Edited June 15, 2017 by crow0827
Stratos Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) AFAIK from reading, no changes are needed in hardware. So maybe Heatblur does not want to add that functionality. In my opinion it adds so many capabilities that will be a huge loss not to see it in the release or planned after it. Hope HB can reconsider at least being added after the beta release. Thanks. Book is: US Navy F-14 Tomcat Units of Operation Iraqi Freedom from Osprey Publishing. Page 10. Edited July 9, 2017 by Stratos Added pic and source I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
near_blind Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 AFAIK from reading, no changes are needed in hardware. That would be incorrect. A separate control stick needed to be added on the left side of the cockpit for the RIO to be able to control the LANTIRN. More importantly you theoretically might have been able to route the LTS display through the original "Fishbowl TID", but the resolution would have been so poor there wouldn't have been any point. You'd need to model the functionality of the upgraded Programmable TID, or PTID, which has a higher resolution and has functionality much closer to what we would consider a traditional MFD. Besides the upgrade work to the aircraft itself, there HB would have to do a great deal of research and work to get the LANTIRN itself working properly. FWIW they have not entirely ruled out the possibility of adding it, but it would be part of a later release that brings the F-14 up to the late 90s "Upgrade" standard.
Stratos Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 FWIW they have not entirely ruled out the possibility of adding it, but it would be part of a later release that brings the F-14 up to the late 90s "Upgrade" standard. Then maybe I misunderstood or book was wrong, will keep my research. I know they don't ruled out completely, I really hope they can add the LANTIRN pod later, free or as a DLC, but bringing this beast to full capabilities. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
westr Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 This module wont be a closed book upon release, separate from the updates to the module the potential for add-ons is there, should Heatblur choose to do so of course. Like the real Tomcat this would change its mission capabilities. I would find this really interesting. I sense the Heatblur team have like many of us a real love for this bird and would love to do all they can. We shall see, I'm just looking forward to learning it from scratch. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV
Alicatt Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 I see that the TARPS DI used a Pulnix digital camera, I used these back in the '90s too, they made excellent cameras. Their miniature CCTV cameras packed a lot of performance in a very small package for the time. Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron
CheckGear Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I don't know if this has been discussed, but how would DCS incorporate the TARPS successfully into gameplay? In other words, if your objective is to take pictures, how will the game evaluate the mission performance based on the pictures you took? In the 1995 sim Top Gun: Fire at Will!, you could fly TARPS mission, but it was an almost entirely scripted affair, as much of the game was. In DCS, it wouldn't be scripted, so how would the game be able to formulate whether or not a TARPS mission was successful?
HiJack Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Object is to take picture of specified area. The Image taken could include the coordinates and by that somehow compare the position, heading and size of image to what was specified in the task? Maybe?
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