Don't update to Windows 10 creators update (1703)!

[Weltensegler]

In this first official Normandy release it brings frames down from 100+ to as low as 20 fps plus stuttering and other issues!

1.5 seems not or little effected.

If you are unsure if you did run the "winver" comand in cmd and see if it says 1703.

 

You can apparently roll back from it, I'll try that tomorrow.

So long for people who can't or don't want to roll back because they love MSpaint so much...there are a few things to get about 50% of the lost frames and performance back.

 

1.disable game mode in windows settings and every other option e.g. DVR and streaming mode

2. Check disable full screen optimization in you DCS.exe compatibility mode (right click properties)

 

general note: do not use Nvidia setting: "Optimize for Compute Performance" as it will most likely crash your DCS on mission load.

 

In addition of course the usual suspects "terrain shadows off" and anti alias down etc.

 

cheers,

 

WELD

Edited May 28, 2017 by Weltensegler

[Bullant]

Well that (possibly) explains the sudden drop in frame rates earlier this week :(

[Zarma]

Also my 2 Lilliput 8'' USB monitor no longer work

[BIGNEWY]

I am using 1703 with no issues

[Zarma]

Only have problem with the 2 USB monitors, no perf issue

[hughlb]

I'm also using 1703, and saw no change in 2.05. I do however have plenty of framerate issues in 2.1, but can't say if 1703 has any bearing on that

[dburne]

I am using 1703 as well. Unless you go in and manually choose to enable game mode in Windows, it will not utilize that "feature"...

[coldViPer]

I have this version also and have some problems with USB-ports. Sometimes after reboot my CH Fighterstick is not recognized by Control Manager and have to unplug / plug it back.

[cichlidfan]

It is pointless to tell people not to update. Though you can roll back or delay it for the time being, you will eventually have no choice.

[BitMaster]

No issues and superb performance, also using GameMode.

 

There are a few issues with Sound drivers ( well stated from vendors ) and Thrustmaster Target ( also stated by TM ).

 

Apart from that, excellent.

 

Eventually, as cichlidfan said, you will either face a 5h runtime only till shutdown ( READ the EULA ) or upgrade, no real way back nor a standstill allowed.

[Drona]

Microsoft's policies with data collection and updates in Win 10 just sucks. I just hope that Steam OS or some Linux version comes out with a game-friendly design. Wishful thinking I know.:music_whistling:

[BitMaster]

Since M$ values gamers high again I doubt that Linux will make it to gaming in the wider scope before I die !

 

I actually do have a few games that run on all 3 OS's, MS MacOS and Linux. It just depends on what acceleration they choose. If they pick DirectX those other 2 doors are basically shut.

[Weltensegler]

It is pointless to tell people not to update. Though you can roll back or delay it for the time being, you will eventually have no choice.

 

I failed to mention this is regarding Normandy and to a certain untested extend to Nevada since the Normandy release.

We tested frames before and after the update and I would not post something thinking it could help if I was the only test object.

 

This was one of the few updates that I got asked whether I want it or not. Its different than others since this is in beta stage and there is a lot talk about the issues and bugs it brings with it in general.

Both the beta windows update and the Normandy map will experience optimizations and improvements so at some point this will hopefully be all fine.

 

So long if you get 100+ fps on max settings possibly even in 4K WITH the update for some reason then be happy.

This was tested to help people who are not that lucky with the Normandy's launch performance.

 

cheers

Edited May 28, 2017 by Weltensegler

[BitMaster]

It's actually not Beta or Preview. The build numbers for Previews ( I run a few Win10 just for those various previews in VMware ) are well beyond Creator's Update. Not at that machine so I cant copy&paste the numbers but can do so later today if you like.

 

I think they yet dont promote it to standard update procedure as they are aware it needs more fine tuning AND vendors need time to react with compatible drivers.

 

How is your 1.5 performance with the new build ? It should be same or even higher. That is my personal experience.

[Weltensegler]

I did not compare fps exactly but 1.5 was seemingly unaffected.