F/A-18C Armament Thread

[Vitormouraa]

Already know that. I meant what kind of bomb racks the plane will mount.

 

I think it's easier to say what's not in the game than saying what is in the game. If that makes any sense :D

[SkateZilla]

JDAM's require a MIL-STD-1760 databus so the BRU-33 will not be able to use them. The BRU-55 is the rack that is MIL-STD-1760 capable. Being that this is a mid-2000 Hornet and the BRU-55 was not purchased for the fleet until last year I doubt it will make it onto the DCS Hornet.

 

I've only been saying that for 6 months now, lol, and I got harsh feelings and responses for doing so.

[Esac_mirmidon]

You know.

 

Internet is a hard place.

[Majinbot]

I've only been saying that for 6 months now, lol, and I got harsh feelings and responses for doing so.

 

Of course, however, this is not the official simulator of the navy, but a videogame so maybe to satisfy those who pay, ED could add the bru-55 since the recent f-18 actually mounts it...without offending anyone's feelings

[Vitormouraa]

I've only been saying that for 6 months now, lol, and I got harsh feelings and responses for doing so.

 

You were talking about LGBs... as far as I can remember.

 

Which I showed it's possible, even the wiring is compatible.

 

I was aware of the fact that the BRU-55 was supposed to be the 'smart rack', i.e it was the only VER rack capable of employing JDAMs.

 

We weren't sure about that.

[SkateZilla]

You were talking about LGBs... as far as I can remember.

 

Which I showed it's possible, even the wiring is compatible.

 

I was aware of the fact that the BRU-55 was supposed to be the 'smart rack', i.e it was the only VER rack capable of employing JDAMs.

 

We weren't sure about that.

 

the Discussion started as "Guided/Smart Bombs", and I said they would require BRU-55 to Transfer the Data.

 

Part of the way into the discussion I said LGBs could be mounted to BRU-33, as long as they were only LGBs and not the new Hybrid LGB/GPS Units.

[Freeroamer]

Here's something... It seems that the BRU-55/A was available in 1999 to the Navy....

 

 

https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/bru-57.htm

[SkateZilla]

Here's something... It seems that the BRU-55/A was available in 1999 to the Navy....

 

 

https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/bru-57.htm

 

 

The BRU-55 program is currently in development under an E&MD contract. The initial qualification testing began in January 1998. Flight testing began in August 1998. Source Selection for the BRU-57 Program began on 07 January 1999.

 

 

The U.S. Navy did not Purchase them until 2017.

 

And they are going to the Super Hornets.

[MackM2]

The hornets in my Airwing carried these all the time in the mid 90’s. The were designated as BRU-33’s which is two BRU-32’s paired on a single rack. The ordnance guys nicknamed the “Boogie Boards”.

[MackM2]

Oops sorry for the previous post, didn’t read the part about the BRU-55 Data Transfer.

[Avimimus]

You will get a Canadian skin or two :)

 

Well that is something at least :D

[Boogieman]

Question for the clever people - can the Hornet mount the ATFLIR pod on its centreline station? I was thinking about it the other day and realised I have only ever seen the ATFLIR mounted on the side of the fuselage...

[Lithion]

Question for the clever people - can the Hornet mount the ATFLIR pod on its centreline station? I was thinking about it the other day and realised I have only ever seen the ATFLIR mounted on the side of the fuselage...

 

I believe i've heard here on the forums, it's the preferred way for the USMC F/A-18©'s:

 

**EDIT**

That is a Litening pod in the image above, not an ATFLIR. It is not used by the Navy only the Marines.

 

shown image below is a LITENING pod, no image proof yet of mounting ATFLIR centerline.

 

 

 

Edited May 4, 2018 by Lithion
i got corrected

[Cunctator]

That is a Litening pod in the image above, not an ATFLIR. It is not used by the Navy only the Marines.

[ZHeN]

Still any news on the loadout we will have on the F-18? Especially if we have the possibility to mount 2 jdam on a single pylon.

10xGBU-12's ? OK

[Boogieman]

That is a Litening pod in the image above, not an ATFLIR. It is not used by the Navy only the Marines.

 

Yes I think I remember this discussion occurring on the forum before. IIRC the USMC Hornets generally switch to the ATLFIR once deployed though. It's interesting because despite my best Google-fu attempts, I cannot for the life of me find any image/evidence of a US Hornet of any persuasion carrying an ATFLIR on the centreline...

[Lithion]

That is a Litening pod in the image above, not an ATFLIR. It is not used by the Navy only the Marines.

 

Thanks for the correction, edited my post.

[aceofspades9963]

Center line station is wired for the ATFLIR if there's no pictures of it shouldn't matter because it is possible. It's way better for masking , you don't have to run an asymmetric load out since the left tank masks the pod most of the time if installed.

[MackM2]

During my time around Hornets I never saw them on a centerline station. In fact the pod is actually shaped to specifically mount on the fuselage. I’ve seen pics of Lightning pods on the centerline but never saw them in the fleet mounted. Keep in mind, I retired from the navy 9 years ago, maybe they have something now.

[SkateZilla]

Yes I think I remember this discussion occurring on the forum before. IIRC the USMC Hornets generally switch to the ATLFIR once deployed though. It's interesting because despite my best Google-fu attempts, I cannot for the life of me find any image/evidence of a US Hornet of any persuasion carrying an ATFLIR on the centreline...

 

Center line station is wired for the ATFLIR if there's no pictures of it shouldn't matter because it is possible. It's way better for masking , you don't have to run an asymmetric load out since the left tank masks the pod most of the time if installed.

 

They Don't.

 

USMC Carries AN/AAQ-28 Pod on Centerline w/ a Modified Pylon and added data bus.

 

Navy hornets did not receive such upgrade.

 

During my time around Hornets I never saw them on a centerline station. In fact the pod is actually shaped to specifically mount on the fuselage. I’ve seen pics of Lightning pods on the centerline but never saw them in the fleet mounted. Keep in mind, I retired from the navy 9 years ago, maybe they have something now.

 

The ATFLIR System uses a Fuselage Adapter that comes w/ a NAvFLIR Sensor Built Into It.

 

 

 

Super Hornets Cannot Carry AN/ASQ-228 on the Centerline either.

 

But they Can Carry AN/ALQ-99, and AN/AAQ-33 on the Centerline.

Edited May 4, 2018 by SkateZilla

[Boogieman]

They Don't.

 

USMC Carries AN/AAQ-28 Pod on Centerline w/ a Modified Pylon and added data bus.

 

Navy hornets did not receive such upgrade.

 

 

 

The ATFLIR System uses a Fuselage Adapter that comes w/ a NAvFLIR Sensor Built Into It.

 

 

 

Super Hornets Cannot Carry AN/ASQ-228 on the Centerline either.

 

But they Can Carry AN/ALQ-99, and AN/AAQ-33 on the Centerline.

 

What an interesting chat this has turned out to be - thank you Skatezilla. I find this very curious - I would have expected the centreline station to be the desired spot for it so as to aid FOV and load symmetry. I guess there will be plenty of asymmetric load-outs in my DCS future! :thumbup:

[Boogieman]

In other news, this is going to bring a whole new dimension to the SEAD domain in DCS:

 

ADM-141B TALD Coming to DCS World

 

One of the new munitions that will be coming with our DCS: F/A-18C Hornet is the ADM-141 Tactical Air Launched Decoy (TALD). The TALD mimics the radar cross section of a fighter-sized aircraft by use of Lungberg lenses, and it is capable of releasing chaff bundles. With a maximum glide range of 120 km, the TALD can be used to “bait” hostile radars to reveal their locations for follow-on Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD) attack. The F/A-18C can carry up to six TALDs.

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/newsletters/newsletter04052018-xnhrq8wet6z1nqu079o4or0vrvu7swhs.html

 

Using decoys to draw out GBAD assets like this is a longstanding component of the SEAD/DEAD game that has been entirely absent from flight sims for as long as I can remember. Will be a lot of fun to play with it when ready!

[Neor]

So how does the TALD work? Is it a fire and forget missile or can i do anything with in if its in the flight?

[Silver_Dragon]

Here:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-141.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20110901125641/http://www.vectorsite.net/twuav_06.html#m2

 

the TALD has a Glider Decoy

 

have some TALDs versions:

- TALD A/B37U-1(V)1: Chaff disperser version, with 36 kg of chaffs.

- TALD A/B37U-1(V)2: passive radar decoy whic Luneberg lens to enhance radar signature.

- ADM-141B: chaff-dispensing TALD and radar decoy

- TALD IR: carry a IR passive decoy on the tail.

 

Others TALDs version:

- ITALD: Powered TALD with better range and programable fly and attack profile.

 

[jojo]

Yes I think I remember this discussion occurring on the forum before. IIRC the USMC Hornets generally switch to the ATLFIR once deployed though.

 

Here is a picture of a Marines F/A-18 deployed in Irak.

They have loaded Litening pod on center line station.

 

I think it's rather a matter of deployed on the ground/ on aircraft carrier.

- ground => Litening

- aircraft carrier => ATFLIR on the left air intake.

Edited May 5, 2018 by jojo