dresoccer4 Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 I noticed that flaps are always at 5 degrees when in cruise. and the only way to get them up is to turn the flap power switch OFF. is this normal? seems like it would inhibit efficient cruise. should i put them all of the way up? what about during combat? i tried to look in pocket guide but wasn't sure. thanks! lovin this jet btw Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules
Roadrunner Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 edit: disregard, wrong subject :( [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "There's nothing to be gained by second guessing yourself. You can't remake the past, so look ahead... or risk being left behind." Noli Timere Messorem "No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always been there first, and is waiting for it." Terry Pratchett
FZG_Immel Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 bump on this [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5
Eldur Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 This definately adds drag, going with flaps off is most efficient. Couldn't find anything on the 5° cruise setting, could be that this is not correct yet, but I'm sure, they'll get this sorted. Also I still haven't found a purpose for the reset position of the lower flaps switch...
robmlufc Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Setting flaps to "Cruise" holds the flaps at 5 Deg. This is normal. "Auto" controls the flaps between 0-25 Deg depending on airspeed and landing gear position. "STOL" controls between 0-62 Deg depending on weight on wheels, airspeed, nozzle position You should be in "Auto" for conventional flight.
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Setting flaps to "Cruise" holds the flaps at 5 Deg. This is normal. "Auto" controls the flaps between 0-25 Deg depending on airspeed and landing gear position. "STOL" controls between 0 25-62 Deg depending on weight on wheels, airspeed, nozzle position You should be in "Auto" for conventional flight. Good info. Just a slight correction 1
KingPoiuy Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 I've never seen it drop below 5 when in auto, even when purposefully going into a dive and trying to get as much speed as possible. [DoW]King Owned Aircraft: P-51D, F-86F, Bf 109 K-4, MiG-15bis, MiG 21bis, Ka-50, Mirage 2000, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, AV8B N/A HOTAS: Saitek AV8R-01, Saitek X-55 Throttle
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Me neither, but the manual does state that they can go to 0 in auto.
FZG_Immel Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 yet they dont and thus the plane is always climbing. is there a hidden trim that I didnt find =? [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5
ricktoberfest Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 yet they dont and thus the plane is always climbing. is there a hidden trim that I didnt find =? Not hidden but there is trim Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
robmlufc Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 They do go to 0, you need to be shifting though. There's no need to worry about them being at 5.
FZG_Immel Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Not hidden but there is trim Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Like manual trim ? under which key binding are they =? [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5
FZG_Immel Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 They do go to 0, you need to be shifting though. There's no need to worry about them being at 5. well.. in cruise they stay at 5.... which above 400kts make my plane climb...... and since I can't find the trim, its a but of an issue... [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5
King Cobra Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 well.. in cruise they stay at 5.... which above 400kts make my plane climb...... and since I can't find the trim, its a but of an issue... The panel infront of the throttle and nozzle there are 4 switches one the is small and a three position under landing gear panel to the left, right click it; then flip the three switches under the auto pilot and you will be able to trim, then set trim keybindings... Ex Alto Vincimus
FZG_Immel Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 The panel infront of the throttle and nozzle there are 4 switches one the is small and a three position under landing gear panel to the left, right click it; then flip the three switches under the auto pilot and you will be able to trim, then set trim keybindings... found them ! thanks.. under HOTAS.. I swear to God I looked for them on the day the module came out and could not find them ! [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5
Sephyrius Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Are you aware of the search function within the controls setting menu? Simply typing 'trim' there would've found you the bindings in no time.
yogipol Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 They do go to 0, you need to be shifting though. There's no need to worry about them being at 5. Well, flaps give you some drag which in war zone means flying with lower speeds. I presume Flaps mode set in AUTO should give you flap 0 setting when in clean configuration and landing gear set in UP position. Setting the flap power switch to OFF gives me a boost of 30-40kts. And that is quite a lot. HP Reverb, Intel I7 9700K, Zotac GTX 2080Ti, 32GB Ram @4000Mhz Corsair, SDD M.2 500GB Samsung 970 PRO
Bullitthead Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 Yup higher top speed and probably much better fuel economy, which is pretty important in the Harrier. Good tip, thanks!
104th_Maverick Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 I looked in to this and was informed that it is working as intended guys... Cruise flaps value is static at 5. AUTO flaps move from 5 to 25 depending on several variables. Flaps can only be 0 when they are OFF [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 104th Phoenix Wing Commander / Total Poser / Elitist / Hero / Chad www.104thPhoenix.com www.facebook.com/104thPhoenix My YouTube Channel
robmlufc Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 ;3313227']I looked in to this and was informed that it is working as intended guys... Cruise flaps value is static at 5. AUTO flaps move from 5 to 25 depending on several variables. Flaps can only be 0 when they are OFF Auto flaps move 0 - 25 depending on landing gear and airspeed.
yogipol Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) ;3313227']I looked in to this and was informed that it is working as intended guys... Cruise flaps value is static at 5. AUTO flaps move from 5 to 25 depending on several variables. Flaps can only be 0 when they are OFF Taken from NATOPS FLIGHT MANUAL NAVY MODEL AV--8B/TAV--8B161573ANDUPAIRCRAFT 2.15 SECONDARY FLIGHT CONTROLS 2.15.1 Flaps The electro--hydraulic operated trailing edge flaps (see Flap System foldout) are controlled by a dual channel electronic flap controller, a dual system hydraulic control valve and two dual tandem actuators. Flap positioning is provided bytheflapcontrollerinaccordancewithswitch selectionby thepilot. ASTOLmode(25°to62°), anAUTO mode (0° to 25°), and a CRUISE mode(5°) Edited December 5, 2017 by yogipol HP Reverb, Intel I7 9700K, Zotac GTX 2080Ti, 32GB Ram @4000Mhz Corsair, SDD M.2 500GB Samsung 970 PRO
Rlaxoxo Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 I've read in the manuals as well that auto controls the flaps from 0-25 degrees while the cruse is 5 degrees I think the auto flaps is in the wrong here and won't go to 0 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
CoBlue Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 So AUTO mode (0°-25°) & CRUISE mode (5°). They can go to 0° in AUTO, haven't seen it yet though. But why 5° in cruise & fly with more drag??? Must be some reason for it? i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR.
Rlaxoxo Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) So AUTO mode (0°-25°) & CRUISE mode (5°). They can go to 0° in AUTO, haven't seen it yet though. But why 5° in cruise & fly with more drag??? Must be some reason for it? Makes sense if you think logically at least, produces more lift at slower cruse speeds and controls the AoA Also AUTO flaps are prohibited when doing A-A Refueling and must use cruse mode f. Flaps: CRUISE, (STOL flaps may be used to maintain AOA below 13°). The use of AUTO flaps is prohibited for initial drogue engagement; authorized once "in the basket." Note: Switching from CRUISE Flaps to AUTO Flaps must be done prior to AOA increasing above 5 units. 3. If waiting in the Observation position for your turn to refuel, consider completing the checklist with the exception of extending the probe and selecting CRUISE / STOL flaps, which increases your drag and fuel flow, until it is your turn to refuel. Be sure to complete these two steps prior to departing the observation position for the appropriate astern position. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3311867&postcount=3 Edited December 5, 2017 by Rlaxoxo [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
robmlufc Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 I've read in the manuals as well that auto controls the flaps from 0-25 degrees while the cruse is 5 degrees I think the auto flaps is in the wrong here and won't go to 0 They do go to 0, you have to be going pretty quick though. I was about mach 0.95 in a dive and had them go up. I then pulled up hard and the tailplane dropped off. Might worth checking the lookup table RAZBAM uses for the logic.
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