Guest Guest Posted April 16, 2018 Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) I have a question. Will the PFM Mig-29 that was announced in the recent live stream be available as an update to those that already own FC3 or will the PFM Mig-29 only be available as a new module that those with FC3 must purchase again? Wasn't the Su-33 upgrade to PFM added to FC3 as an update for those that already owned the module? Edited April 16, 2018 by Heavy-D69420 adding information
JunMcKill Posted April 16, 2018 Posted April 16, 2018 AFAIK, the MIG-29 PFM will be free for FC3 owners, but maybe ED will sell it individually as they did with SU-27, F-15 and SU-33 before, for those who have no money to buy the FC3
feefifofum Posted April 16, 2018 Posted April 16, 2018 This. PFM updates are automatically applied to all FC3 aircraft as they become available. THE GEORGIAN WAR - OFFICIAL F-15C DLC
DavidNed Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Upgraded Mig 29 Su25T and MiG29S have these bugs aswell. Havent tested any of the other aircraft yet. лучшие предложения магазин лучший подарок девушке
wizav Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Mig 29 is my favorite, I am happy it's getting PFM upgrade. MIG 29 deserves FULL simulation at some point. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
draconus Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Su25T and MiG29S have these bugs aswell. What bugs? Not one was mentioned in this thread. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Top Jockey Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 I have a question. Will the PFM Mig-29 that was announced in the recent live stream be available as an update to those that already own FC3 or will the PFM Mig-29 only be available as a new module that those with FC3 must purchase again? Wasn't the Su-33 upgrade to PFM added to FC3 as an update for those that already owned the module? Where was that ? Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Mars Exulte Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 MiG29 has been on the roadmap for ages, they're doing them one at a time. In one of the dealies round here somewhere they projected by end of 2018 for the update, if I remember correctly. You can expect it to get the same treatment as the others, inclusion in FC3 plus a small price bump, and availability as a separate module for purchase Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2
Top Jockey Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 MiG29 has been on the roadmap for ages, they're doing them one at a time. In one of the dealies round here somewhere they projected by end of 2018 for the update, if I remember correctly. You can expect it to get the same treatment as the others, inclusion in FC3 plus a small price bump, and availability as a separate module for purchase For me, as long as they give the Fulcrum the right Instantaneous and Sustained turn rates ; agility ; aceleration ; etc. it's fine. Where is the announcement they are talking about ? Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Goa Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 I cant' wait for the mig29 to have the PFM, it's such a fast short range interceptor!!!! PFM for mig29 will give DCS world a pearl for everyone!! CPU : Intel i7 8700k@5.0ghz cooled by Noctua NH-D15 / Motherboard:Asorck Z370 Taichi / RAM: 32GB GSkill TridentZ @3600mhz / SSD: 500GB Nvme Samsung 970 evo+1 TB Sabrent Nvme M2 / GPU:Asus Strix OC 2080TI / Monitor: LG 34KG950F Ultrawide / Trackir 5 proclip/ VIRPIL CM2 BASE + CM2 GRIP + F148 GRIP + 200M EXTENSION /VKB T-Rudder MKIV rudder /Case: Fractal Design R6 Define black
Marduk879 Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 I wonder if they fix the dirty HUD with the PFM... would like to see somethign through it actualy..
Guest Guest Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 Where was that ? Wags mentioned in the second Hornet livestream that the Mig-29 would be upgraded to a PFM flight model sometime near the end of 2018. He also said that at this point there are no plans to do a full fidelity Russian jet like a Fulcrum or Flanker.
Guest Guest Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 For me, as long as they give the Fulcrum the right Instantaneous and Sustained turn rates ; agility ; aceleration ; etc. it's fine. Where is the announcement they are talking about ? Skip to about 36:50
Top Jockey Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 Skip to about 36:50 Thank you. I've searched for that news report but wouldn't find it in a million years. Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Guest Guest Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 I wanted to clarify this: the Mig-29A/G/S doesn't have FBW? I was wondering because I find the AOA/pitch changes in the Su-27 and Su-33 to be much slower than the F-15C. I attributed that to the FBW system in the Flanker limiting the G you can pull which makes the Flanker go nose up slower. I know there is something in the controls that allows you to bypass the 8G limit, but I don't use it because I see a lot of guys in Flankers rip their wings off in ACM. In a conversation I was having with some friends I suspected that the PFM Mig-29 would have faster pitch changes than the Su-27/33 because it doesn't have a FBW G-limiter.
Vatikus Posted May 11, 2018 Posted May 11, 2018 I wanted to clarify this: the Mig-29A/G/S doesn't have FBW? No, there is no FBW. However when using dampering, there is soft 26deg AoA limit which can be overriden by pulling extra force on stick (like Su fighters).
Alfa Posted May 11, 2018 Posted May 11, 2018 I wanted to clarify this: the Mig-29A/G/S doesn't have FBW? I was wondering because I find the AOA/pitch changes in the Su-27 and Su-33 to be much slower than the F-15C. I attributed that to the FBW system in the Flanker limiting the G you can pull which makes the Flanker go nose up slower. I know there is something in the controls that allows you to bypass the 8G limit, but I don't use it because I see a lot of guys in Flankers rip their wings off in ACM. In a conversation I was having with some friends I suspected that the PFM Mig-29 would have faster pitch changes than the Su-27/33 because it doesn't have a FBW G-limiter. No the MiG-29 versions you mention(in the sim) have an electro-mechanical control system with mechanical linkages to the hydraulic actuators of various control surfaces. But it does have some "FBW-like" functions such as a computer controlled AOA/G control system, that monitors AOA and G-forces and performs automatic operation of LEFs as well as an AOA limiter("pitch kicker"), which is described as follows in the MiG-29 manual: "The pitch kicker is designed to prevent inadvertent stalls by moving the control stick forward of neutral when either pich rate or AOA, or a combination of both, reaches the critical value. The computer triggers solenoid valves to operate the hydraulic actuators, which cause the taileron to assume an aircraft nose-down deflection and the control stick to move forward. Thus the pilot is immediately made aware of an approaching stall condition of the aircraft. A force of 17 kp, in addition to normal control forces, applied on the stick can override the pitch kicker." No, there is no FBW. However when using dampering, there is soft 26deg AoA limit which can be overriden by pulling extra force on stick (like Su fighters). As far as I can tell, the AOA limiter is always active and not a function of dampering(an AFCS mode). JJ
Vatikus Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 As far as I can tell, the AOA limiter is always active and not a function of dampering(an AFCS mode). We are both correct. It depends on which SAU mod is in the plane.
Alfa Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 We are both correct. It depends on which SAU mod is in the plane. Yeah could be :) JJ
jackmckay Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 Besides obvious sluggishness and buggy DM, Mig29 has some serious pilot issues like tendency to blackout sooner than on other modules. There's something very wrong with that, personally observed.
JunMcKill Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 I just want something more simple for the MIG-29, ED PLEASE REPAIR THE RWR DISTANCE LIGHTS!
Vatikus Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) Since by Chizh's words, the FM is half done ( https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3495886&postcount=883 ), we can hope for some progress on more 29's fronts this year ... JunMcKill, while we are awaiting for fixes, I suggest you to download some of the user texture fixes regarding RWR. Not the prettiest solution, but the sole one for now :/ To add to that list, I hope that someday we will get also a functional chaff/flare counter which is not just a static number on the texture ... Edited May 25, 2018 by Vatikus
JunMcKill Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 Since by Chizh's words, the FM is half done ( https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3495886&postcount=883 ), we can hope for some progress on more 29's fronts this year ... JunMcKill, while we are awaiting for fixes, I suggest you to download some of the user texture fixes regarding RWR. Not the prettiest solution, but the sole one for now :/ To add to that list, I hope that someday we will get also a functional chaff/flare counter which is not just a static number on the texture ... thanks mate. the problem with that mod or fix is the IC, most servers use full IC, and you can't access them without a clean client.
Vatikus Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 thanks mate. the problem with that mod or fix is the IC, most servers use full IC, and you can't access them without a clean client. To get greenlight IC, the cockpit needs to be in Saved Games/Liveries/Cockpit_MiG-29A/<new name> (same for S version..). I use it as such, and it passes IC ok.
JunMcKill Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 To get greenlight IC, the cockpit needs to be in Saved Games/Liveries/Cockpit_MiG-29A/<new name> (same for S version..). I use it as such, and it passes IC ok. Thanks! lets see if the 104th IC let me pass the fix!
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