Sea Only Map ...

[sleepycanuck]

The release of the Hornet module gave me the idea that maybe it would be interesting to have a map that features only a large portion of the Atlantic or Pacific oceans (no land masses). I envision scenarios where naval craft and aircraft take part in operations that take place only over open water. Key features would be some interesting weather conditions that would add challenge to mission. The idea is a type of "sandbox" map where opposing carrier groups, and their associated aircraft, could go head to head.

[Mr_sukebe]

Good idea, and already suggested.

Hopefully the south Atlantic map from Razbam will include a huge ocean expanse

[sleepycanuck]

Excellent! :D

[ouPhrontis]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=209557

[Emmy]

There are only two or three aircraft in the entire DCS stable who would ever do Blue Water Ops so I don't see the point of any "map" that screws 98.5% of the modules out of participation.

[ouPhrontis]

There are only two or three aircraft in the entire DCS stable who would ever do Blue Water Ops so I don't see the point of any "map" that screws 98.5% of the modules out of participation.

 

I don't see why anyone at all gets "screwed", that's ridiculous; you don't have to buy a water-only, or mostly-water map module if you don't want to. A water-only map might not even warrant costing anything (the water plane is infinite in all maps, as far as I know, thus would just involve already existing assets).

 

Plus carrier based modules in-the-works;

• A-4E - Community
  
• F-14A/B
  
• Who knows what else...
  

 

Not to mention the UH-1H, Mi-8, KA-50 and SA-342 can land on deck, though I'm not aware of them being used on/off carriers in real life, maybe under trials.

Edited July 9, 2018 by ouPhrontis
missed some points.

[VZ_342]

But the 3% that can use it will have fun navigating in a featureless void...as will the remaining 97% land-based aircraft who need to attack the Navy and do shipping raids.

 

And helicopters doing ASW or rescue/recoveries... Heck, I’d pay $20, even though I’d rarely fly in it (my planes of choice are low-level bomb trucks)

[Eight Ball]

I would love to see an ocean map too, even if it's a "low effort" one, with no change in water depth and no charts.

 

 

The fleet of carrier capable aircraft is expanding aswell as AI units. We now have access to several chinese ships, HB is going to add a few aircraft carriers and IIRC Razbam also had plans for AI ships.

 

 

Surely, the lack of height variations and map objects would allow the creation of massive air/naval combat while keeping decent FPS.

 

 

And from the point of view of someone with zero knowledge in map making it seems like something really, really easy to make.

[Capn kamikaze]

This would be good and probably quite easy to do.

[Capn kamikaze]

Combine this with a ship/sub module and it would be more than good.

[Hyperion35]

Non-carrier aircraft can still be done with an in-air start, and maybe some in-air refueling. A different problem might be the current lack of anti-ship weapons. The Viggen has the RB-04 and RB-15, and the Hornet will be getting the Harpoon soon enough. I seem to remember that the Su-25T has some sort of anti-ship missile, and the MiG-21 has that beam-riding radar guided missile whose name I'm forgetting. But a lot of aircraft wouldn't really have anything that they could do against ships.

 

Also, tbere's plenty of water in the Black Sea for all sorts of these naval battles, it extends pretty far to the West.

[Pathfinder_50]

+1

[Grater Tovakia]

totally support this, I think a primarily ocean based map in the North Atlantic would be perfect for some great RSR themed operations. (also 1980s US Navy and Soviet naval assets would be awesome)

[ebabil]

I think you can use west of the black sea map for this kind of purposes. do you want an endless sea?

[TaxDollarsAtWork]

We are getting something very close to this but not exactly

 

The Marianas

 

 

I'd be all for an all water map too if you could spawn small airbases in Mission editor like a certain older sim let you

 

 

 

Or even a series of islands, like Northern Australia + Malaysia and Indonesia, would make a lot of sense actually given the Chinese assets pack

[Qiou87]

The problem is the lack of redfor carriers IRL compared to blufor. In DCS I count the Kuznetsov and it’s chinese sistership (provided it is added to DCS at some point, which is possible I guess) versus the five Nimitz-class we will have once SC is finished. That’s heavily imbalanced, and keeps a lot of DCS modules out of this map. Some small landmass with some runways like we will have in Marianas at least provides for some more variety in the scenarios. Although I still humbly believe the current DCS module list is not sufficient for such a map. We even have only few planes with anti ship weapons, two of which (C101 and Viggen) are land based...

[Baco]

We need some sort of Damage model for ships, not just a a health bar...

 

Naval operations are ludicrouse right now.

 

You cant disabel systems, nor disable ships. Its either kill or nothing.