[REPORTED]body texture too shiny

[berk.kp]

The UH-1's body texture is more shiny than the tail boom. I've noticed this on all liveries despite using the same spec textures and not changing anything.

 

[Lixma 06]

I think most textures in DCS need reworking since 2.5. Hopefully the older modules will catch up with the newer ones.

[Ricke444]

Did you ever find a fix for this? This is annoying the hell out of me and it's been like this for a while now

[Robert31178]

I was wondering if there had been a post made here yet. ED, check out this!! My shiny Huey! Can we fix this yet please????

 

Before - a nice flat grey like a USAF Pavehawk:

 

 

After - Same skin, but looks like a dman P-51. Note the tail of a crashed Huey for comparison, it somehow goes back to the correct color once damaged??

 

[Robert31178]

ED? Anything? Some support would be great, but a response I think would be just fine here......are you guys still paying attention to this module?

[berk.kp]

I have a solution for that problem. Go into Bazar/World/Shapes and remove the file "ab-212.lods.json"

[ams999]

Yes, that works for me, thanks! Shiny skins are shiny and flat skins flat again...

[Strut]

This needs to be acknowledged as a legitimate problem, any comment from ED is welcome.

[thrustvector]

yea berk.kp solution works well, it does make them all flat, so if you have some that are supposed to be shiny, ....well that's the only prob, and to be honest its a good fix and quick as most are flat

[ams999]

My shiny skins are shiny, not flat

[ams999]

What it does do, however, is to negate the fix for window reflections that was introduced a while back (and which, IIRC, led to the shiny skins).

 

So instead of deleting the ab-212.lods.json I now had a look at it and deleted everything in the file *not* referring to glass so now it looks like this:

 

{

"uh-1_glass_dm": {

"reflMult": 0.14000000059604644775,

"reflAdd": 0.085000000894069671631,

"specMult": -0.20000000298023223877,

"specAdd": 0.23999999463558197021,

"specSelect": 1,

"albedoLevel": 0.11100000143051147461,

"albedoContrast": 1.0

},

"uh-1_glass": {

"reflMult": 0.75,

"reflAdd": 0.013000000268220901489,

"specMult": -0.16400000452995300293,

"specAdd": 0.19599999487400054932,

"specSelect": 1,

"albedoLevel": 0.16699999570846557617,

"albedoContrast": 0.75

},

"uh1_colorglass": {

"reflMult": 1.0,

"reflAdd": 0.0,

"specMult": -1.2999999523162841797,

"specAdd": 1.0,

"specSelect": 1,

"albedoLevel": 0.0,

"albedoContrast": 1.0

},

"uh-1_glass_dam": {

"reflMult": 1.0,

"reflAdd": 0.0,

"specMult": -1.2999999523162841797,

"specAdd": 1.0,

"specSelect": 1,

"albedoLevel": 0.0,

"albedoContrast": 1.0

}

}

 

 

The glass reflections are now back again and the skins still flat (or shiny where applicable). Then I just use OvGME and am set.

[thrustvector]

excellent ams999, isn't it a shame that a simple fix as quick as it is cannot be done in house?

what mod structure did you use, and I take it I can just copy paste your text?

[ams999]

Copy/paste should work as I didn't alter any values so those are original anyway (just cut away unnecessary baggage...).

 

Not sure what you mean by mod structure; just gave it the same folders as in the original (Bazar\World\Shapes\)

[thrustvector]

yea sorry, got it now, works a treat, cheers mate, maybe should put it up as a mod/temp fix on the user files?

[Helles Belle]

There is a problem with the tail of the Huey appearing matte and body appearing shiny (depending on the spec you have for the skin)

 

If you wanted an aluminium look the body is fine but the tail looks dull.

 

This only happens if NO weapons mounts are loaded.

 

I finally got to look through the .json file and may have solved that problem.

 

Open ab-212.lods.json (the original file - some people may have already modified it or deleted it)

 

In civ_uh1_tail_dam

Change the specAdd value to the red highlighted value below.

(the original value is 1.0)

 

"civ_uh1_tail_dam": {

"reflMult": 0.5,

"reflAdd": 0.64999997615814208984,

"specMult": -0.5,

"specAdd": 0.54000002145767211914,

"specSelect": 0,

"albedoLevel": 0.20000000298023223877,

"albedoContrast": 0.94999998807907104492

 

As far as i can tell it works with all weapons etc.

 

Now all I have to do is figure out how to fix the pilots vests/uniforms.

 

Look here for other thread.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=231824

Edited February 26, 2019 by Helles Belle

[ams999]

Thank you!

I copied that back into my modified fille.

 

Does anyone know what value causes what? I now modified the glass reflectivity to make it more shiny (as with the original values it looks like it has an antireflective coating) and though that worked OK it's pretty much a shot in the dark...

[ams999]

There is a problem with the tail of the Huey appearing matte and body appearing shiny (depending on the spec you have for the skin)

 

If you wanted an aluminium look the body is fine but the tail looks dull.

 

This only happens if NO weapons mounts are loaded.

 

As far as i can tell it works with all weapons etc.

 

Unfortunately, for me this now leads to the tail being too shiny on the skins, especially the flat ones, so I reverted back again...

[Helles Belle]

Unfortunately, for me this now leads to the tail being too shiny on the skins, especially the flat ones, so I reverted back again...

 

Bugger, thanks ams999,

 

I’ll have another look at it and see if I can track it down. :thumbup:

[Helles Belle]

Hey ams999,

 

are you using the default spec files or are there custom ones in the skin folder?

[ams999]

Default spec for the flat/matte skins and VIP/AirAm, custom specs for the ones I want shiny.

 

However, as stated before, I just delete most of the ab-212.lods.json as I find most values utterly useless and they introduce bugs.

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2020 by ams999
fixed broken link

[monkie]

THANK YOU FOR THIS FIX! I can't tell you how frustrated I was after taking a few months off from DCS only to come back and see not only had they changed the LUA structure (minor but annoying and time consuming to fix) but for some reason my US ARMY Helo Drab schemes were nowhere near drab.

 

I am sure this has something to do with them working with the new engine and fiddling here and there but man the Huey skins went from drab to looking like some kind of plastic, gel, hideous material that isn't seen in the real world.

 

I'm thankful we have members on here that don't mind digging through the code to find fixes and share them with the community. It might seem like small potatoes but if the aircraft textures are off it really can ruin things.

[leonardo_c]

this fix has to be applied at every single openbeta update.

 

 

the hotfix by ams999 (thanks!) has been pubished Feb 19th.

 

 

how come is this issue still present in production code and has still to be reapplied at every single openbeta update?

 

 

how hard is it to release this trivial fix? please fix it :)

[ams999]

Sometimes I have the feeling DCS has a lot of 'solvable-in-5-minutes'-problems but someone has to get around to actually fixing them.

 

I'm just glad that this specific one can be 'user-fixed' and that berk.kp found the file responsible all those months ago...

[RyboPops]

Almost the end of January 2020, and we still have to mod our files to have a Huey that doesn't look like it was put together in a junkyard with Vietnam era scraps.

[BIGNEWY]

Hi all

 

this is already reported

 

thank you