Best VR plane

[freemind_fly]

Hello,

 

soon my new PC and Oculus Rift will arrive. I once tried out VR in DCS at a friend with the P51D. Very nice, though when flying with around 60 degrees bank I got motion sick. So does it mean I should shift my focus to aircraft with less loopings and rolls – like the A10C – or doesn't it matter?

[dburne]

No, you will get some motion sickness at first but over time ( usually a few days to couple of weeks) you will adapt and it will not be an issue. At least that seems to be how it is for most.

I get motion sick very easy just riding in a car, but adjusted to using my Rift in just a few days.

 

Just start with a plane rather than a chopper.

The F/A - 18C is very nice in VR.

WWII birds are as well ( currently flying the Spit).

[lucky-hendrix]

Motion sickness you should get used to it. Most people do.

 

But what is very important is how readable is the cockpit!

Some airplane have older less readable textures.

A10c is difficult to read, M2000C is the worst !

 

F/a-18 & F-5E would be my pick for the clearest cockpit in VR

 

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[Wexler]

Dont be scared of motion sickness, this is mostly issue for games where you stand in room and doing moves. When u siting, its much less of a problem. Ofcourse you will have to adapt a little, but not a big deal, if u are not oversensitive to such issues in real life during transportation for instance.

 

What made me headaches was low FPS. You must stay while flying on 45 and better. Its ok to be on 30 for a while, but not below. When it starts to shutter, that can make a nice head ache.

 

From modules - stay away from Mig 21, until it got canopy/cockpit overhaul. Quite good is L-39 if you want to enjoy nice trainer. Got nice readable instruments. For russian A/C i figured out that red lights for instruments are terrible. white lights go very nice. Because even in dark, the dark scenery is made of light in the headset, so its like darkness really doesnt exist in VR and thus cannot be threated like darkness in real life. My opinion..

[Harlikwin]

Motion sickness you should get used to it. Most people do.

 

But what is very important is how readable is the cockpit!

Some airplane have older less readable textures.

A10c is difficult to read, M2000C is the worst !

 

F/a-18 & F-5E would be my pick for the clearest cockpit in VR

 

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F5 is good in VR performance wise. F18 is good. Trainers, L39 is good Just from a looking at things in the pit the harrier is good too, but it has way too many issues for me to recommend it to anyone. Helo wise, the huey is good. And yeah, stay away from the mig21 until the fix it.

[freemind_fly]

Thanks for all the help! I might give the F18 a try - while waiting for the F14. But also the F5E looks interesting. Currently I fly the P51D a lot.

[freemind_fly]

One more question: The motion sickness also won't affect me after getting used to it if I am in a roll or looping?

[dburne]

One more question: The motion sickness also won't affect me after getting used to it if I am in a roll or looping?

 

You really will not know till you try it and use it for a bit - for most it does not.

[Harlikwin]

For what its worth, it mostly never effected me, only at first when I was doing really weird maneuvering. And now basically never. But everyone is different so the only way to find out is to fly in VR for a while.

[sea2sky]

Hornet is the slowest in VR. Hog is very fast (almost 50% increase in fps).

[Harlikwin]

Hornet is the slowest in VR. Hog is very fast (almost 50% increase in fps).

 

Let me introduce you to the Mig21....

 

 

But they are working to fix it...

[sea2sky]

Let me introduce you to the Mig21....

But they are working to fix it...

 

 

I know :). I just did not mention Mig since I've somewhat lost any hope in it.

[Harlikwin]

I know :). I just did not mention Mig since I've somewhat lost any hope in it.

 

My .02 since I'm the guy probably running the lowest specced VR system here, the F18 isn't that bad, but the hog is better.

[Harlikwin]

And for as much as I bag on Razbam their planes have pretty good frames in VR... Probably because there isn't much being actually modeled on the back end...

 

[GTFreeFlyer]

Looping or rolling never got me. It’s the yawing that got me at first, but I’m now used to it. Flying around in coordinated flight never bothered me, but when stepping on rudder pedals to slip or skid, that slight “spinning” motion made me feel a little queasy. The worst for me was turning while taxiing, and also the moment the plane comes to a stop in the ground because the nose does that quick dip and pop back up motion. After 2-3 weeks of occasionally playing maybe 3 times per week, it’s completely gone now. You learn the maneuvers that make you uncomfortable and just close your eyes at first taking very quick glances so that you see a series of still pictures rather than the motion. That’s one trick. Just give it time and you’ll be fine too. The body adapts to anything. Just start playing as long as you can at first, then slowly increase it by a few minutes at a time each gaming session. Don’t go straight into a 4-hour mission and you’ll soon be calling it DR... desired reality.

[Wexler]

Its a difference between information what you eyes give your brain and what your https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestibular_system give to your brain. Actually in sitting position its much better because most of your body is just same as it is in the plane. In real plane, if its start rolling you will see the same, in VR you dont feel the accelerations which are giving brain info positioning. Dont forget that there is no acceleration in either way when u are sitting, so it is just eyes what are adapting. when u play games in stand where you move etc, you can easily lose sense of how your body actually is positioned, but in seat you are always the same. This is much lighter version to cause motion sickness - because you actualy dont move, sooner your brain will act with it same as with any other motion picture i guess.

 

Dont be scared of it. So far something what i would call motion sickness happend to me when i started with it in a 360° space flying in no gravity, you sometimes see everything up and down you have to wave your hands or crouch. after two minutes i had to sit down, anyway a couple of minutes i just punched heavily into the ground because i forgot. So you will have either time in head that its not real, which kinda delte the VR immersion, or you need to play a game which dont mess with your motion senses, which DCS is. The plane acts just how your brain expect it to acts - once you get into flying. It doesnt do something irregular normally. For instance like videos where you look right, but in video the fixed camera is forcing your vision left, this is the most motion sickness generator so far. But in DCS, you will be perfectly all right if you have no issues in cars, buses whatever.

Edited February 28, 2019 by Wexler

[ElementLT]

I have been flying in VR for over a 1 and a half now. I only experienced about 20 min of motion sickness but my body got well adjusted very quickly. At some point, your going to want to get your hands on a helo. I recommend the Huey, VR in a helo is truly something special.

[DutchCoolHand]

Dont be scared of motion sickness, this is mostly issue for games where you stand in room and doing moves. When u sitting, its much less of a problem. Of course, you will have to adapt a little, but not a big deal,

 

I feel that if I lean into the turns it helps. I can fly for 2 hours and not be sick at all.

[rtimmons]

When you start out it is best to avoid rolls and loops if you are getting sick. Just try to keep the plane level for a while and get use to it slowly. You can get severely sick if you over due it at first. I did. If you slowly introduce more and more radical moves over time you probably won't get sick at all. After a week or so you should be doing loops and rolls and anything else with no motion sickness at all. It is only a temporary thing your body will adjust to much like in real life flying. The A10 is a good place to start.

 

 

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[Mule]

And for as much as I bag on Razbam their planes have pretty good frames in VR... Probably because there isn't much being actually modeled on the back end...

 

 

Meeeowww!

[Mule]

I have been flying in VR for over a 1 and a half now. I only experienced about 20 min of motion sickness but my body got well adjusted very quickly. At some point, your going to want to get your hands on a helo. I recommend the Huey, VR in a helo is truly something special.

 

+1

[freemind_fly]

So, now here is my experience with the Oculus: Had a nice day with the P51D, no problems at all. The next morning I tried a VR rollercoaster app and got motion sick the entire day. Next day tried VR again and it was a bit better but seems like now I am more sensitive to it. Will make a few days pause and check back.

[GTFreeFlyer]

So, now here is my experience with the Oculus: Had a nice day with the P51D, no problems at all. The next morning I tried a VR rollercoaster app and got motion sick the entire day. Next day tried VR again and it was a bit better but seems like now I am more sensitive to it. Will make a few days pause and check back.

 

 

 

Same with me. Never had a problem until I tried a VR roller coaster. Anything with turning will get me. However it is different with planes, probably because you are banked while turning? Either way, why ride a roller coaster when you’ve got A-10’s, F-18’s, etc, all waiting for you?

[MarkP]

I had ALOT problems with motion sickness when i got my rift. I couldnt even roll 2 Meters on the ramp without getting sick.

 

But after 3,4 Days i got used to it and now i dogfight without any problems.

 

I eeven dismounted my monitor so i fly VR exclusive, never go back :)