Mrjollyroger103 Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Calling all Modders.... Its been brought to my attention that the sound for the tomcat wont sound like one at all. This is coming from a Youtuber that got an early access to the might cat and said this when I made a comment about the outside sounds. "Unfortunately it's very difficult to source and license sound effects for an aircraft like the Tomcat, modder's have a little more freedom to use anything as there's no money involved :)" For a jet that is so widely known and one that has a sound like no other, I am curious if someone is going to work on this or has realized that the sounds are way off on the external, especially at a idle.
I_Gamer Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 I like how it’s not even released yet and you want a mod for it... y’all are crazy haha. Jokes aside I’ll see how close it actually comes to it - I overhauled a Cat for ArmA 3, so a lot of my samples should already be pretty close to finished. We’ll see how good she actually sounds! Cobra from HB on Reddit mentioned the limitations they had, and will be tweaking audio as they go. - - - - - - - - Tyler "Shadow" All things sound @ Echo 19 Audio linktr.ee/echo19audio
chaser Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 there is nothing wrong with the sound - trust me [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
I_Gamer Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 there is nothing wrong with the sound - trust me We just gotta wait a few more days to listen for ourselves! :pilotfly: - - - - - - - - Tyler "Shadow" All things sound @ Echo 19 Audio linktr.ee/echo19audio
pimp Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Calling all Modders.... Its been brought to my attention that the sound for the tomcat wont sound like one at all. This is coming from a Youtuber that got an early access to the might cat and said this when I made a comment about the outside sounds. "Unfortunately it's very difficult to source and license sound effects for an aircraft like the Tomcat, modder's have a little more freedom to use anything as there's no money involved :)" For a jet that is so widely known and one that has a sound like no other, I am curious if someone is going to work on this or has realized that the sounds are way off on the external, especially at a idle. I read those comments and I did not get the impression that he was agreeing with you at all. All he did was mention the difficulties about getting sounds for an aircraft like the Tomcat and a fact about modders have the freedom to create mods. i9 14900k @5.6GHz NZXT Kraken |Asus ROG Strix Z790 A-Gaming | Samsung NVMe m.2 990 Pro 2TB | 64GB DDR5 6400MHz EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | PiMAX CRYSTAL LIGHT | HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Flight Pedals
fl0w Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Sounds real to me. I have nothing against a mod existing for F-14 sounds to replace the ones we'll get, but this isn't the Harrier we're talking about. :D
Cobra847 Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Our sounds are from an F110 engined -B. The statement on YT was a mere observation. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
joey45 Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 The only sound mod I want is Pac-man sounds for the cockpit. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Coxy_99 Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Calling all Modders.... Its been brought to my attention that the sound for the tomcat wont sound like one at all. This is coming from a Youtuber that got an early access to the might cat and said this when I made a comment about the outside sounds. "Unfortunately it's very difficult to source and license sound effects for an aircraft like the Tomcat, modder's have a little more freedom to use anything as there's no money involved :)" For a jet that is so widely known and one that has a sound like no other, I am curious if someone is going to work on this or has realized that the sounds are way off on the external, especially at a idle. Hahaha what youtuber?
Mrjollyroger103 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Posted March 11, 2019 Here is the link to the video I was talking about. And Thanks for all the comments, I guess we will see here in a few days.
chaser Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Here is the link to the video I was talking about. And Thanks for all the comments, I guess we will see here in a few days. Cant hear anything wrong with the sound [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Nooch Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 From what I've heard on Youtube so far the Tomcat sound is great in general but there are a couple minor things that annoy me. For example when the canopy gets shut, it sounds like you're slamming your kitchen's door or something... Also when you light up the afterburner, you get a roar inside the cockpit (just like in the Viggen by the way) and this is a sound you should be getting only when hearing the plane from the outside, not from the inside. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mrjollyroger103 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Posted March 14, 2019 Still Hoping someone is considering on fixing this, this def does not sound like a tomcat on the outside. How ever on the inside it sounds fantastic. The idle sound is what needs the most work on this.
hawk2495 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 To be fair, the Cat most people are used to hearing is the A. The 110s in the B are bound to sound a bit different. Why is the rum always gone!?!?!?!
hocician Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) From what I've heard on Youtube so far the Tomcat sound is great in general but there are a couple minor things that annoy me. For example when the canopy gets shut, it sounds like you're slamming your kitchen's door or something... Also when you light up the afterburner, you get a roar inside the cockpit (just like in the Viggen by the way) and this is a sound you should be getting only when hearing the plane from the outside, not from the inside. ... i´m an engine mechanic (former Mig-29 and now Typhoon) and did/do a lot engine runs - you hear the afterburner in the Cockpit! for sure the difference outside of the Cockpit is much much louder from max dry to reheat but you can hear it and also the pilot can hear it when flying - its not that much louder, you´re right, but the Tomcats AB inside the cockpit is, in my opinion, well done ! Edited March 14, 2019 by hocician
I_Gamer Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 To be completely honest; the sound on the F-14 is good, but not good enough for me. I dug around SDEF files and most of the exterior samples' files make no sense. For instance; a typical inner/outer radius on other modules is around 400(m) and 1600 respectively. However, for most of the external samples - these values are in the thousands. I've only just begun digging into the sound on the cat, and it's not structured as nicely as the Hornet is, unfortunately - which means getting this thing to sound more accurate is going to be a relatively difficult task to accomplish with what we have available to us. Regardless; HB did a great job with the resources they have available to them - so props for that! Looking forward to what lies ahead, both for the Cat and beyond. - - - - - - - - Tyler "Shadow" All things sound @ Echo 19 Audio linktr.ee/echo19audio
Mrjollyroger103 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Posted March 14, 2019 I think they nailed the inside sounds for sure but the outside ones are def lacking. Here is the start up sounds of a GE F-110 on a F-16, they had the same engines and the tomcats sounded exactly like this when starting up and also at idle. Here is the tomcat actually starting up as a comparison. If you compare this to the Heatblur outside sounds, it sounds nothing like this at all. Like I said i think they have done a great job with things and I think we all can agree we just wanna make it even better! =)
SonofEil Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) there is nothing wrong with the sound - trust me I've learned that when someone says "trust me"... I think they nailed the inside sounds for sure but the outside ones are def lacking. By HB's own admission they intentionally did not nail the inside sounds. They took some artistic license to make the switches, dials , buttons, and slidey bits much louder than they would be irl. IIRC their reason was to compensate with audio for the lack of feedback from not having your butt in the real seat. Electronics cooling fans, the Environmental Control System, various canopy and airframe wind noises...that's what you hear in tactical aircraft cockpits I've sat in. Switches and buttons are not totally drowned out but very much in the background. ED's Hornet actually gets very close to what it sounds like irl. I came here specifically looking for a mod to tone down all the clickety-clack business in the Tomcat. Edited March 14, 2019 by SonofEil i7 7700K @5.0, 1080Ti, 32GB DDR4, HMD Odyssey, TM WH, Crosswind Rudder...
Brigg Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 The only sound mod I want is Pac-man sounds for the cockpit. Or Herbert the pervert for Jester :lol:
MurderOne Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I just feel a need to chime in and provide my 1/3 of a cents worth. I LOVE being able to hear the burner, because I don't have a way to physically feel the extra thrust, we need some kind of cue! And it sounds mean. Sorry, no cool signature here.
ShalashakaDS Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) The only thing I found somewhat weird is that with engines off your don't hear absolutely no air sound, actually, you hear absolutely nothing at all (I may or may not have gotten a little too excited on my first flight and forgot my burners on the whole flight till I ran her out of fuel at 40k feet at Mach 2 :p ). Edited March 15, 2019 by ShalashakaDS
jafa Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 Wow , thats pretty awful , she sounds like shes doing 350 knots while taxing to the runway and then when in the air the sound saturates the whole dcs environment for miles around so that its hard to hear other aircraft , for an expensive purchase that is soposed to be all singing and dancing from the get go this is a very poor effort. Cheers Jafa [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
CrimsonGhost Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 My only gripes with the Tomcat's sounds so far are the way that any Tomcat on the field with its engines running is absolutely deafening to everyone else, and the inability (at least that I have found) to be able to lower the sound of the ECS. Having never flown a Tomcat I can not vouch for any authenticity of the sounds but I would think I would be able to turn down the air conditioning to a quieter level. i7-7700K @ 5.2Ghz SLI 1080Ti 64GB GSkill Trident Z RGB 4133 Asus Maximus IX Extreme Custom Water Cooling Loop TM Warthog/ MFG Crosswind
Bananimal Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 I agree. The idle sounds outside and behind the aircraft give one the impression that the engines are in cruise. And it is much too loud to boot. This is the same, although at different volume levels, for the other aircraft as well. No aircraft sounds like this IRL while taxiing. ED needs to update the sound engine completely for this game, as this has been a limitation of the current sound engine for quite some time. ___________________________ Bananimal's DCS Mods and Skins
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