Fricfrac Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Hello, I haven't seen this issue posted elsewhere, so wanted to see if others are experiencing the same issue. When I try to load up any F-14 mission, everything appears to load up okay. However, the main screen is black, and I'm unable to move the mouse (everything frozen) to try and click "Fly" at the bottom right of the popup mission window. Within 10 seconds or so, the game closes out/crashes back to desktop with no errors. Any thoughts or ideas? I tried the other modules, including Flaming Cliffs and A-10, with no issues. Thanks for any help or insight! Edited April 2, 2019 by IronMike
archer86 Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 after update, I have only tested with f-18 and yes it happened all the time. for now, dont click the fly botton,just little wait the black screen, cockpit comes a few seconds later. they should fix this
ivo Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 Same here cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
Bullant Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 I've only tried two missions (have to work :() Caucus takeoff mission is fine, but Persian Gulf alert 5 mission crashes to desktop as soon as I hit fly. Tried twice with exact same result. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
Pougatchev Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 Same for me, have to wait for this black screen to dispaeared and then fps goes fine, since this update I found all loading times are far longer than the previous version of dcs, and not only with the cat even if this one is the longer of all modules to load /
GriffonBR Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Same problem here. Select Cold Start on Caucasus map, I get a briefing with the picture of a A-4 Skyhawk mod and the when I hit fly the game crash. By Tapatalk + Samsung S9 Intel 8700K@4.7ghz(all cores) / 32Gb DDR4 /WD Black SN750 Heatsink 500gb (DCS Only) / MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G / Windows 10 PRO / VPC WarBRD Base + Warthog Stick + Foxx Mount / Thrustmaster TPR pedals / Thustmaster MFD / Thrustmaster Warthog throttle + Monstertech chair mount
pimp Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Were there any logs generated? I'm that would help the devs. i9 14900k @5.6GHz NZXT Kraken |Asus ROG Strix Z790 A-Gaming | Samsung NVMe m.2 990 Pro 2TB | 64GB DDR5 6400MHz EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | PiMAX CRYSTAL LIGHT | HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Flight Pedals
MonkeyFlung Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I’ve had the same issue. Either it crashes before it fully loads, crashes when I hit fly, or crashes at the longest I’ve managed to get it to work, 30 seconds. Just to test, I had no issues with the f18 in free flight in the Persian gulf and flew around for a few minutes with no issue. As an aside, I can’t read any of the labels in the cockpit of the f14. Its like someone went in and smudged up the whole pit. Hopefully the stack of big reports I sent in will help. Here’s hoping for a stability patch in the next couple days.
Bullant Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Here's my dcs.log for the Persian Gulf Alert 5 mission. I hadn't even hit fly yet, was just looking around and it CTD.dcs.zip Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
Tigh Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I'm getting the same. The training missions work fine (although the sim sometimes CTDs after the mission) but I have failed to load into any other type of mission for more than a few seconds. Reports have been sent so hopefully the devs can get to the bottom of it.
Bullant Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) More info, any instant action mission in Persian Gulf or Nevada results in instant or near instant CTD. Was able to fly around in Caucus and Normandy for 10 minutes each without a problem. Also as you can see I have heaps of memory, a juicy graphics card etc. Never had a problem with Nevada or Persian Gulf in any other module. Edited March 14, 2019 by Bullant Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
Looney Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Any mods installed? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commodore 64 | MOS6510 | VIC-II | SID6581 | DD 1541 | KCS Power Cartridge | 64Kb | 32Kb external | Arcade Turbo
Bullant Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Any mods installed? Not a single mod. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
Tigh Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I noticed in the log it was a memory allocation error. I've turn off DEP (which as usual was turned back on during an update (Win10)) and so far so good.
Bullant Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I noticed in the log it was a memory allocation error. I've turn off DEP (which as usual was turned back on during an update (Win10)) and so far so good. Had to google DEP, but after checking I can see it is enabled for "essential Windows progams and services only" so don't think that's my problem. There are definitely memory errors in my log when it crashes, but I am only using at max 20 of my 32 gig of memory (you can clearly see where the crash happens on the graph attached) Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
Emmy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 The “pre load” black screen behind the inop FLY button seems to be the new norm in all modules as of today. For me, Hornet, Hog and Mustang all do it in addition to the Tomcat. Kicking back and letting things grind through until the cockpit appears in the background seems to avoid crashing out. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com
Bullant Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 OK done a fair bit of testing, hope this helps the devs. I have 32Gb of ram, MSI afterburner shows 10Gb in use with just background crap (outlook, chrome etc). Launching the alert 5 mission this quickly climbs to 22Gb and CTD. If I cut back some of my graphic settings it starts at 20Gb, I can look around for a bit but it soon climbs to 22Gb and crashes. In the hornet, on the carrier in PG, starts at 16Gb never gets above 18Gb. If I put the DCS settings to the Low preset, Alert 5 PG starts at 16Gb and climbs to around 20 and seems to keep working. If I close outlook and chrome, my base mem usage drops to 6Gb. Alert 5 PG then starts at 16Gb (with my high settings) and climbs to around 20 after a couple of minutes. Seems stable for a while but then crashes. This is definitely a memory issue, and obviously made worse by the higher memory usage of PG & the Tomcat, the question is why is it crashing when memory usage hits 22Gb and I still have 10Gb of free memory? I tried hitting 22Gb in the Hornet and couldn't really come close ... Forgot to say, Tomcat on Caucus at high settings started around 16Gb and climbed to around 20Gb ... not sure about long term stability, need time to actually fly a real mission. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
hancerPL Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Hello After loading 14, I can not launch any mission, it crashes to the desktop. I have a charging screen and that's it. Any suggestions, do you just have to blow DCS and re-install without F-14? Specialization A-10C https://vbw304.pl/
Nealius Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 This is happening to me as well, even in missions without a Tomcat, and even without a player-controlled aircraft at all. I have to wait until I'm sure the program is not unresponsive before clicking anything.
Pochi Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Hello, I had the same problem with the Viggen few weeks ago, it appeared that the “ sync cockpit buttons with HOTAS” option in DCS would crash the game as soon as I hit the FLY button. No more problem after I unticked this option. Hope it may help, Pierre
MonkeyFlung Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 Sooooo, tried it again tonight with no VR and just used trackir. It worked perfectly. No crashes and I could read the cockpit labeling.
makotoryougi Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 same here. wasnt able to get into the F-14 for once. every time I hit the "Fly" button my game freezes and crashes.:mad:
Oban Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 and just like that.. the hype train crashed..along with F14 module on the "Fly" screen.. Maybe next week people will be able to enjoy. Disappointing that 2 days after release, and a hotfix has meant being unable to actually use the module at all. It took me 2 days to update and download the Cat into the bargain. Oh well, back to the Hornet and A4E for now. AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX with Radeon Graphics 3.00 GHz 32 GB RAM 2 TB SSD RTX 4070 8GB Windows 11 64 bit
hancerPL Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 It's working for me. I removed the entire game and folder in the save game. Clean installation and trial without Tomcat - works Then installation of the F-14 module and bingo. If someone has a fast connection, it's not a problem. PS. You can make yourself copies of pure DCS, without Tomcat Specialization A-10C https://vbw304.pl/
makotoryougi Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 I did delete saved games and whole dcs, too. Redownloaded everything again and started without any mods -> still not working. Then i did set all my graphic settings to low -> now its kinda working but crashes quite often, too. But that cant be it. My hardware should be really good enough to handle this, and I dont want to play DCS in complete low graphic settings. i5-7600k @4.2 turbo 16 gb RAM @2400 mhz GTX 1080 Guess well have to wait for them to move the F-14 into stable and (hopefully) fix these major hardware issues the F-14 got.
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