Air defenses

[steelrfan85]

Any tips on how to avoid and destroy SAM sites with the tomcat? There are no HARMS so that is out of the question. Would the LANTIRN work? I’m thinking’s it’s too low and range is way too close to destroy without being shot down. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Dino Might]

Use a TALD or two. Launch before SAM locks you. Then go in behind it with bombs.

[steelrfan85]

How does that work exactly?

[Kayos]

How does that work exactly?

 

Launch a TALD or two, wait for the SAM to engage them and then strike.

I think someone just did a video about it. Check youtube.

[Cytarabine]

*Tongue in cheek*

 

Get a Hornet with some HARMs to come along?

[TLTeo]

*Tongue in cheek*

 

Get a Hornet with some HARMs to come along?

 

 

No HARMs works too. Get the SAMs to shoot at the silly Hornets, then fly in with whatever a/g ordnance and steal the glory ;)

[steelrfan85]

I guess I’ll need to figure out how to create those circumstances in a mission editor. One of the missions built already when installing has me flying though like 7 or 8 missile sites which is impossible. There are just tomcats no hornets. I choose to engage my wingman to engage air defenses and he says running in but I don’t see hm do anything.

[VampireNZ]

I guess I’ll need to figure out how to create those circumstances in a mission editor. One of the missions built already when installing has me flying though like 7 or 8 missile sites which is impossible. There are just tomcats no hornets. I choose to engage my wingman to engage air defenses and he says running in but I don’t see hm do anything.

 

So essentially you are trying to use the TALD that is flying formation off your wing? - that works lol :music_whistling:

[steelrfan85]

I watched the video. It looks like it would work great on one site but not multiple sites in different distances.

[QuiGon]

I watched the video. It looks like it would work great on one site but not multiple sites in different distances.

Why not? Launch TALDs at each of them.

[steelrfan85]

I can only carry 4. The missions have them posted all over. Mission editor shows red circles all over the place. Some overlapping so I’d be in range of the other as well.

[RustBelt]

Are you certain you’re supposed to destroy them and not avoid and evade?

[steelrfan85]

I’ll look tonight

[steelrfan85]

Here is the first mission. I have no idea how am suppose to evade the SAM sites. As you can see there are air defenses all over the place and the waypoints take me through all of them. I don't know how I would get around them anyways with fuel consumption. The tanker is all the way down Southeast of map. It is 120 nm from the carrier.

[probad]

it says tornados are on sead duty, let them do their job

[steelrfan85]

I don’t have enough fuel unless I’m suppose to stay on deck until they launch and start taking out sites

[steelrfan85]

I have to turn back to base to refuel. Tanker know where near me.

[probad]

tomcat design requirements involved loitering for over an hour away from the carrier, so if you're running out of fuel too fast it's all on you

 

hint: there's more to using the throttle than keeping it pushed forward

[Eldur]

No HARMs works too. Get the SAMs to shoot at the silly Hornets, then fly in with whatever a/g ordnance and steal the glory ;)

 

Do it proudly with the six barrel. You're flying a men's airplane, then do it like a man

[steelrfan85]

I was about an hour away. I only used afterburners on take off and a few times trying to avoid stingers.

[QuiGon]

I was about an hour away. I only used afterburners on take off and a few times trying to avoid stingers.

There's quite a bit of throttle range BEFORE the afterburner detent that can be used ;)

The Tomcat has so much thrust that it can even push against the sound barrier without afterburners, and pushing against it costs a lot of fuel.

 

And btw, Stingers LOVE afterburners. They create a big juicy heat source to lock on to ;)

[RustBelt]

Here is the first mission. I have no idea how am suppose to evade the SAM sites. As you can see there are air defenses all over the place and the waypoints take me through all of them. I don't know how I would get around them anyways with fuel consumption. The tanker is all the way down Southeast of map. It is 120 nm from the carrier.

 

That's a CAP mission, your job is to keep fighters off all the airborne assets. It's someone else's job to worry about killing sam sights, your job is to keep fighters off of them. Part of doing that job is staying out of the SAM areas so you don't get shot down.

[steelrfan85]

Have you flown the mission yet? Everywhere planes pop up it’s in the dead center of the SAMS.

[lunaticfringe]

Have you flown the mission yet? Everywhere planes pop up it's in the dead center of the SAMS.

 

You know what outranges a SAM against an air-to-air target?

 

It's 13' long, 15" wide, and about 1000 lbs. Take a few of them. Take a couple more for their friends.

[RustBelt]

Yea Phoenix outranges SAM any day.