HC_Official Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) V1 throttle release July 2018 - has 4 way hat swtiches (has detent) V2 throttle release Feb 2019 - has 4 way hat switches + Push (has detent) V3 throttle release July 2019 - has 4 way hat switches + push and now analog mini-stick (no detent) https://www.facebook.com/VIRPILControls/posts/2818956291553545 Edited May 11, 2019 by HC_Official No more pre-orders Click here for tutorials for using Virpil Hardware and Software Click here for Virpil Flight equipment dimensions and pictures. .
mazex Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Lovely. Just received my version 2 a couple of days ago... Sigh. And this has added the only thing lacking that I was looking for (the analogue stick that I have to continue using my old G13 for). Ryzen 9800X3D | RTX 5080 GPU | Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX MB | 64GB 6000Mhz DDR5 | Windows 11 Pro x64 | Virpil T-50 Throttle | T50 CM2 Grip + WarBRD | VKB T-rudder MK IV | Asus PG279Q 1440p | Pimax Crystal Light VR | Samsung 980 Pro as system disk and DCS on separate Samsung 990 Pro NVME SSD
wasserfall Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Did they delete the afterburner detent? Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G
Guppy Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Did they delete the afterburner detent? yes My Simpit Progress and Update Learn how to build a SimPit like mine: Follow my Blog here!
wasserfall Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Unbelievable! Why? it is a must for Most modernfighters Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G
Guppy Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Unbelievable! Why? it is a must for Most modernfighters There were some design flaws and wear down because of it, as I understand it. My Simpit Progress and Update Learn how to build a SimPit like mine: Follow my Blog here!
HC_Official Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 I am thinking some smart person could design a 3d printed dedent that could be attached to the upper part of the throttle base ? No more pre-orders Click here for tutorials for using Virpil Hardware and Software Click here for Virpil Flight equipment dimensions and pictures. .
some1 Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Ouch, removing the detents completely is a weird decision. Pity, looks very good otherwise. But to me, detents are a must. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
aaron886 Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 I don't get it. Rushed the initial design and shipped it without a mini stick. Now when they have a chance to make the throttle what it should have always been, they drop an essential feature in the detents? Design a new/better system if the old one was prone to excessive wear! (Pity for those of us who have the old version, knowing it has a design flaw found so soon.)
dburne Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 They experienced the same with the original Mongoos T-50 gimbal system with the cams. Now they have a new version that addressed that issue. Maybe I should wait a bit and see if they put the detents back in at some point. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
mdee Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 I wonder why the detents are removed - if there was a design flaw, how they can guarantee that current V1 and V2 owners don't run into not serviceable problems sooner or later.
Supmua Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 There were some design flaws and wear down because of it, as I understand it. Detent costs $8-10 on 3D print site. There is no reason not to include it as it allows more variety of gameplays (center detent for space sims, varying degree of Nozzle stops for the Harrier, etc.). PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Ranma13 Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 You're talking about how the detents were implemented in the TM Warthog throttle. The Virpil throttle uses a different system.
Swine Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Just curious. Does the warthog have a detent? I really don’t know if it does or doesn’t.
some1 Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Just curious. Does the warthog have a detent? I really don’t know if it does or doesn’t. Yes it does, and it's easily customizable. However, it has different throttle construction where the levers can also move up, not only forward/backward. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Fri13 Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Unbelievable that there is now three updated versions in so young unit. And now throttle looks very cramped so you can't get your fingers there. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
Nooch Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 It looks great overall but to me it lacks the throttle travel distance we get in the warthog. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Johnny Dioxin Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Looks great to me and I will be having one. Loss of detente? Yup - would be nice to have, but deal breaker? No chance. That would be like a racing driver refusing a McLaren GTR because it doesn't have a sunroof. I'll programme in the switch points to afterburner and reverse thrust - I managed that well enough with my G940, so that the last couple of mm put it into AB - you can arrange it very easily with the software so that 100% pushes a virtual button (AB). That will do for me. From the videos I've seen (by Ralfidude, for example) the detentes as implemented were nothing to write home about, anyway. The more of you that won't have one, the better the chances of me gettinghold of one in the first batch of stock - so hate away, my friends.... :D Rig: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; Pimax Crystal Light I'm learning to fly - but I ain't got wings With my head in VR - it's the next best thing!
Bob_Bushman Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) I think I'm actually ok with what I got. But if they could consider selling these grips as upgrades to the old, then maybe. I can see how the detents are a big loss, but I honestly prefer to run smooth myself. Edited May 11, 2019 by Bob_Bushman i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle.
Swine Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 I feel like a testing lab rat for Virpil. I keep buying stuff and then everything gets upgraded!:). I’m kidding. I’m glad we have Virpil in the first place. Back when I started simming we had crap.
norbot Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 We always are test lab rats. I bought a VKB Gunfighter some time ago and then they released the MK II. :joystick:
Johnny Dioxin Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Well, we could say that about many things - especially VR, for example. Point is, we know we are basically paying testers (though we do get a lot of bang for our buck), but we are still happy to shell out, so we know what we are getting into. Rig: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; Pimax Crystal Light I'm learning to fly - but I ain't got wings With my head in VR - it's the next best thing!
dburne Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 We always are test lab rats. I bought a VKB Gunfighter some time ago and then they released the MK II. :joystick: Lol yeah exact same here. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
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