AMD keep up with new gen CPU

[pepin1234]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2019/05/23/amd-in-shock-intel-smashing-performance-claim-is-cinebench-score-really-true/#535c28c66341

[Rudel_chw]

Still no firm info ... a whole article based on just a single leaked cinebench screen capture .. it’s got no information on single thread performance, we will have to wait in order to get a proper benchmark review.

[pepin1234]

Let me post for you what is on sale right now in USA and still AMD doing excellent with almost half prices:

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2018/08/13/amd-32-core-threadripper-2990wx-and-16-core-2950x-reviews-most-powerful-ever-desktop-processors/#c39b8667049f

 

edit: AMD 2950X is doing awesome for the price (~$1800 vs ~$800) is a huge difference.

Edited May 24, 2019 by pepin1234

[BitMaster]

:cheer3nc:...just a few more days until we should get the real info and dates and prices.

 

I have a Ryzen-2600 next to me, built it a few weeks ago for a remote friend and it impresses me.

 

Fast and super silent, with the stock fan ( and a 145€ Platinum 650w PSU from Seasonic ).

 

Actually, that is a real nice setup for a living room rig ;)

[Hiromachi]

Well, there are leaks before that:

 

And simple comparison with current gen cpu with similar ram and settings: http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13241660?baseline=13267824 indicates about 10+ % IPC increase. So if any other leaks are true and those chips are close to 4.5 to 4.7 Ghz, I think Ill be swapping my 2700X as soon as they drop on market.

[Pilotasso]

me too

[BitMaster]

Intel just released an All-Core-5G 9900KS ! Something makes them afraid, wonder what :)

[Hiromachi]

Apparently a 10 nm SKU.

[BitMaster]

Apparently a 10 nm SKU.

 

no, Intel info says 14nm++

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9900ks-10nm-ice-lake,39442.html

[Pilotasso]

Intel cant produce multi-core CPU's on 10nm yet. Yelds are really poor and large monolithic CPU's will have disabled cores due to defects.

[Hiromachi]

Ohh, well than, they keep rehashing same arch and node. Isnt it like 14++++ nm now ?

[etherbattx]

rehashing old designs and still the fastest.

 

unfortunate, but sometimes you just need to roll with it.

[Hiromachi]

 

https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors/11781,11756,11761,11766,11771

 

 

So yeah, I'm not sure I'll even wait for reviews and might just pick that 12c/24t monster as soon as its available. 499 $ is just as much as Core i9 9900k, but offers a lot more.

[blkspade]

Wouldn't the Ryzen 3900X actually run DCS worse than an i9900k, since DCS is mostly single threaded and prefers higher clock speeds over anything else?

 

A 5.0 clocked processor would run DCS better than a 4.6 clocked one, right?

 

EDIT - Can someone tell me what's so much better about PCI 4.0 as well?

 

Current info indicates that the new AMD chips IPC improvement basically has their 4.4Ghz part equivalent to Intel chip at 4.7Ghz in single threaded performance. At 4.6Ghz it would definitely be encroaching upon Intel's 5.0 Ghz performance. If there is any overclocking headroom at all, then it blows the 9900k away.

 

Simple explanation of PCI-E 4.0 is that its doubles the bandwidth over 3.0. So more potential performance for various components.

[VirusAM]

Wouldn't the Ryzen 3900X actually run DCS worse than an i9900k, since DCS is mostly single threaded and prefers higher clock speeds over anything else?

 

A 5.0 clocked processor would run DCS better than a 4.6 clocked one, right?

 

EDIT - Can someone tell me what's so much better about PCI 4.0 as well?

It doesn't work this way.

Sure it can be that the 9900k will still be superior in Single-Threading but you can't compare just with clock speed, the architecture is the main thing.

Could easily happen (and happened in the past) that a 4.0GHz cpu is slower then a 3.0GHz due to different architecture.

The ryzen 2700x in dcs was no much slower then the i9...the difference was quite evident in VR though.

[StandingCow]

Waiting for reviewers to get their hands on the chips before you get too excited.

 

 

[Griffin]

Definitely jumping on board in July! Now the question is, for extra $80, what would the 3700X bring me over 3600X gaming wise and where would I see the difference if DCS is excluded?

 

I'm also seriously considering the X570. Previously I thought that X470 would be enough but hmm...

[Worrazen]

WOOOHOOO! This is what I'm talking about, this is what DCS depends most upon, single-thread performance, IPC lift!

 

I had many posts talking how the computing went away from single-core performance, away from Desktop, but AMD just pulled out the BFG and delivered a totally amazing presentation (with all the jokes) unlike any kind before.

 

This is what is recommended for DCS players, thankfully AMD did not left single-core performance behind, infact it's the core focus, this is very exiting time for the sim community!!!

 

Even if the ST performance will now be on par with Intel's peaks, or slightly better even, so it's not like DCS players couldn't do this before if they chose Intel and had the budget, but it kickstarts this horse race again around IPC in general, the ST performance that's largely been lagging behind.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Worrazen

[tintifaxl]

Sounds like my new PC build is just around the corner. :)

[DocSigma]

I thought the 3700 series was rumored to sport 12cores and 5 ghz boost clocks? Oh well, so much for rumors. Still, the 3900x looks pretty tasty, especially if that puppy has overclocking headroom. Can't wait to see some real-world benchmarks on x570 boards.

[Hiromachi]

Now let's hope for Vulkan in DCS :)

[Pilotasso]

I thought the 3700 series was rumored to sport 12cores and 5 ghz boost clocks? Oh well, so much for rumors. Still, the 3900x looks pretty tasty, especially if that puppy has overclocking headroom. Can't wait to see some real-world benchmarks on x570 boards.

 

Yeah AMD pulled a leg on the leakers. 5ghz might still be possible for Single Thread, however according to my experience locking all cores to a slightly lower frequency than max single core clock does not impact results much.

[BitMaster]

likely with the stock fan at given TDP...whereas Intel, ahem, lol...you know... north of 150w and water...

[Pilotasso]

12 cores on air? Dunno, 3900x may have the same TDP of an 2700x but they may scale thermally differently after overclocking due to the added cores. I wouldn't dare, or recommend anyone getting 3900X without at least an Aio. 3800x and below should be easy on air.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Pilotasso

[Eaglewings]

I have always seen nvidia and Intel recommendations when it comes to hardware for dcs.

AMD high-end GPU and cpu is coming out soon at fairly good estimated prices.

Also hoping amd offer could get nvidia to reduce prices for rtx gpu

How does AMD cpu and GPU perform in dcs.

Looking to upgrade my graphic card.

 

 

Thanks.