Rudel_chw Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Hello, I've seen references to a DCS module called DCS:Apache that was supossed to be developed by ED to be released after the A-10C, for example here: http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?8636-The-Fighter-Collection-To-Release-Digital-Combat-Simulator-Black-Shark I've been on this Forum since 2013 and dont remember what happened to this helo, does anyone knows why it was cancelled? I'm asking just out of curiosity, as the development history of DCS has always been an intriguing subject to me :) Best regards . For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It was subject to a change of plans. No reasons given, afaik. Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3WA Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Probably waiting on systems development, which is happening with F-18, F-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Since 2011? Nah, it was scratched. Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Here are some pictures of the cockpit that was being modeled circa 2007: http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_037e.html For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idenwen Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Probably waiting on systems development, which is happening with F-18, F-16. hmm.. what systems should that be? For the AH-64A/B/C everything is on board already (unguided rockets, laser guided mavericks, stingers, FLIR, CCTV, hell they even could reuse Jester as "Jake Preston" :lol:) And for the "D" is only the A/G Radar missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 B/C were never built, they were just paper prototypes. ED was talking about making the AH-64A in 2007, that's how I became a beta tester tester in 2007. For whatever reason, it didn't work out, there was never a playable Apache in DCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 ED was talking about making the AH-64A in 2007, that's how I became a beta tester tester in 2007. For whatever reason, it didn't work out, there was never a playable Apache in DCS. Thanks for the insight ... My belief is that implementing the dual cockpit was at that time a bit beyond what could be achieved within the DCS engine and thus they opted to cancel its development. :( For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem_Alpha Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I can offer an educated guess. DCS isn't the only product of Eagle Dynamics, they also have the "professional" flight sim called "The Battle Simulator". And the website for the Battle Simulator states that they are developing a AH-64 Module. So most likely the DCS Apache project got moved to a DOD project for the the Battle Simulator. That being said, there might still be a chance that we get a Apache module, since the A-10C was also a recyling product from their Air Force product. Crowbar Inc.: "We deliver pain." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3WA Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Thanks for the insight ... My belief is that implementing the dual cockpit was at that time a bit beyond what could be achieved within the DCS engine and thus they opted to cancel its development. :( Yeah, I think THIS is probably what's holding it back. I recall someone saying they were having some kind of "sync" problem with side by side cockpits. Though I have no idea what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3WA Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I can offer an educated guess. DCS isn't the only product of Eagle Dynamics, they also have the "professional" flight sim called "The Battle Simulator". And the website for the Battle Simulator states that they are developing a AH-64 Module. So most likely the DCS Apache project got moved to a DOD project for the the Battle Simulator. That being said, there might still be a chance that we get a Apache module, since the A-10C was also a recyling product from their Air Force product. Ahh, did not know that. I'll have to look that up. Kind of like VBS and Arma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Combat Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 They've said many times it's not a question of if but of when... They'll get to it. Nvidia RTX3080 (HP Reverb), AMD 3800x Asus Prime X570P, 64GB G-Skill RipJaw 3600 Saitek X-65F and Fanatec Club-Sport Pedals (Using VJoy and Gremlin to remap Throttle and Clutch into a Rudder axis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco8 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Still waiting An A model would be nice but a D would be epic. Take my money already. Black shark 3 will have to do if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3WA Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 "A" I'm not interested in, but D would be a nice adversary for the Ka-50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I'd like to see Apache in DCS... not for me... ...for my children... in the future. :) Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) I can offer an educated guess. DCS isn't the only product of Eagle Dynamics, they also have the "professional" flight sim called "The Battle Simulator". And the website for the Battle Simulator states that they are developing a AH-64 Module. So most likely the DCS Apache project got moved to a DOD project for the the Battle Simulator. That being said, there might still be a chance that we get a Apache module, since the A-10C was also a recyling product from their Air Force product. Alot of the tbs information is outdated. They still say the hornet is still in development ( I guess it still kind of is because Ea) and show very early wip photos 0f the hornet form many years ago when it was supposed to be an earlier lot from the 1990s without any post production features that we currently have. Even though they could easily update that section with current hornet images. I really think it's just a matter of priorities .Prior to BST merge with ED there was an f4E in development but was put on hold to allocate additional manpower to help finish the hornet , and start f16c. Also consider that at the time ed capability for creating multicrew vehicles was not there. Edited August 6, 2019 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 IIRC Wags mentioned in one of the very first Hornet videos that ED developed a greal relationship with Boeing and that this is a great foundation for future Boeing modules like the Apache. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Combat Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Yeah it's still coming I'm sure... Tech level and priorities :). Also... ""A" I'm not interested in, but D would be a nice adversary for the Ka-50." The "A" would be a much better counterpart to the Shark than the "D". Nvidia RTX3080 (HP Reverb), AMD 3800x Asus Prime X570P, 64GB G-Skill RipJaw 3600 Saitek X-65F and Fanatec Club-Sport Pedals (Using VJoy and Gremlin to remap Throttle and Clutch into a Rudder axis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger71 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 In earlier Wag's videos he had an Alpha build that had F16, MI24 Afghanstan, Syria modules but no AH64:( so that means it possibly isn't in development yet . Definitely day one purchase , maybe in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 In earlier Wag's videos he had an Alpha build that had F16, MI24 Afghanstan, Syria modules but no AH64:( so that means it possibly isn't in development yet . Interesting, musta missed that video I was under the impression the mi24 was pretty far from release, same for the afg map. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakum Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Can I at least get a Huey with Vikhrs and a Shkval to hold me over for the next 6 years? Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Can I at least get a Huey with Vikhrs and a Shkval to hold me over for the next 6 years? Only if it doesn't have unrealistic pylons for iglas :megalol: New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco8 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Yeah it's still coming I'm sure... Tech level and priorities :). Also... ""A" I'm not interested in, but D would be a nice adversary for the Ka-50." The "A" would be a much better counterpart to the Shark than the "D". Agreed. The RFI and Longbow on a D amongst other bits could make the AH a little OP vs KA50. It would be interesting to see how they model the FLIR flying on one eye on AH too. I’d rather they turn round and say no we aren’t instead of something like Sqn 42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matic_Prime Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Apache would be more than appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Combat Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 "It would be interesting to see how they model the FLIR flying on one eye on AH too." Hopefully just in one eye in VR ;) Nvidia RTX3080 (HP Reverb), AMD 3800x Asus Prime X570P, 64GB G-Skill RipJaw 3600 Saitek X-65F and Fanatec Club-Sport Pedals (Using VJoy and Gremlin to remap Throttle and Clutch into a Rudder axis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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