[DCS BUG] TALD decreases speed perfomance even when jettisoned

[Darlakan]

When having the F-14B equiped with 1 or more TALDS speed seems to be greatly reduced.

this speed reduction continues even after launching/jettisoning both the TALD and the racks.

making it so that in an almost clean config the F-14B is barely able to substain mach 1 on AB, Tested on multiple heights.

 

To reproduce simply equip any amount of TALDS to the F-14B and keep an eye on your speed guage pre and post jettison/launch.

Edited July 22, 2019 by IronMike

[IronMike]

Thank you, we will investigate that.

[Silvern]

I can confirm this bug.

Appears both in SP and MP.

[IronMike]

Thank you Silvern.

[mattag08]

Just updating this post, my unit conducted an operation in multiplayer using TALDs just now without afterburner we could not achieve a speed greater than 300 KIAS at any altitude. Four separate aircraft with four pilots and three RIOs. We launched the TALDs on a target, no increase in performance. We then dropped the racks that were carrying the TALDs and still gained no performance increase.

 

It very much feels like someone accidentally moved a coefficient of drag one order of magnitude last patch.

[fat creason]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3980929&postcount=20

 

TLDR: We think something strange is going on with stores drag or gross weight on the DCS side but we’re not entirely sure. We're working with ED to get to the bottom of it.

Edited July 21, 2019 by fat creason

[Home Fries]

Another data point: the TALD reduces performance and ceiling (likely parasitic drag), even after launching all TALDs. However, jettisoning the racks puts the jet's perfomance back in norms.

[fat creason]

If anyone can provide track files or videos of any ordinance being released at constant power and level flight that would be appreciated. We need to gather examples of this happening.

[Ramsay]

If anyone can provide track files or videos of any ordinance being released at constant power and level flight that would be appreciated.

Here's a track, it's not very precise but should do.

 

Tacview shows I'm in error and the track didn't show what I thought

 

Stores Dropped ... Change in airspeed (TAS) after 1 minute

• 4x TALDs ... 414 -> 427 TAS after 1 minute

• 2x AIM-9 ... 428 -> 437 TAS after 1 minute

• 2x AIM-7 ... 438 -> 453 TAS after 1 minute

• 4x bomb racks 459 -> 473 TAS after 1 minute

 

Tested Open Beta 2.5.5.33552, default settings @ 14,000 ft, Kobuleti - Sochi

Edited July 23, 2019 by Ramsay
Tacview shows I'm in error and the track doesn't show what I thought

[Skarp]

Here are some of the full mill speeds I was able to achieve with the different weapons. I'm not sure if the gbu38 is correct I can get to almost 1.1mach at full mil? But I can't get there with only 2 aim9m and 2 aim7?

 

[fat creason]

Maybe the GBU38 is the sleekest bomb ever designed! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[QuiGon]

But isn't the GBU-38 a JDAM which our Tomcat shouldn't have? :huh:

[viper2097]

TLDR: We think something strange is going on with stores drag or gross weight on the DCS side but we’re not entirely sure. We're working with ED to get to the bottom of it.

 

Not sure if it may also belongs to that over all problem, but I had a strange experience two days ago on the GAW server:

Took off with the cat on the Stennis with tanks, 4x Aim9, 2x Aim54 and 1x Aim 7. Shot all except the Aim7 in a furball.

Landed on Mayhkop, refueld and rearmed.

Took off and was not able to gain more then 20kft and 150kts IAS without burner.

Felt pretty weird as my buddies with the F-18 had no problem to climb to 35kft and mach 0.8 without any burner and also full ordnance.

 

May it possible, that rearming doubled my drag? It felt that way...

[CaptJodan]

Sorry to necro this, but has there been any movement on this issue? I've noticed it's still around. Track file included.

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