Alon_D Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 Hello everyone Shouldn't in F16 be an option I can see where I'm shooting for GUNS mode In a situation like the picture I can't aim In the past I used F15 and if so it was possible in GUN mode to see exactly where I hit Is it different here?
Harzach Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 Have you bound your dogfight switch? It's in the "Throttle Grip" section of the control options menu.
Harzach Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 Oh, nevermind. I see the funnel in your picture now. You clearly mean the radar computed gunsight, which is not yet implemented.
Harker Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 It's a little different in the F-16. The cross at the top center of your HUD is the gun boresight and the funnel underneath is the gun funnel or EEGS (Enhanced Envelope Gun Sight). Right now, it's quite bare bones, but the general idea is that you place the target inside the funnel, while ideally being at the same plane of motion as them, and when the wingtips touch the edges of the funnel, you fire. Two things: One, EEGS with a radar lock is supposed to add additional information. That includes a flight director, as well as a lead computing sight. The level of added info goes through 4 levels. Without radar lock, you have Level I EEGS and after radar lock, as more info about the target becomes available, you go from Level II to Level V EEGS. Two: You can manually select the target's wingspan to adjust the funnel width, through List->MAN, but it's not implemented yet. We'll also get the LCOS sight later down the line, which is closer to what the F-15 has, but the EEGS is regarded as better anyway. So you'll definitely be able to see where you're firing and when you should fire, but it's not implemented yet. Give it some time and maybe try getting kills with what you have right now, which is the funnel, but like without having a radar lock. It's still useful and important to master. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro
Alon_D Posted December 6, 2019 Author Posted December 6, 2019 Thanks But by what you say, I know where I'm hurting right and left But how do I knowing where I hit I am with an easy pull up or down
doedkoett Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 If it´s the tracers you´re after, you need to select an ammunition type with tracer on the stores loading page.
razo+r Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 place the piper onto target in a way that the wintips touch the funnel and you are golden to shoot.
Geraki Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 EEGS is WIP .....i hope in the next update ..... Ref :
schurem Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 Man I'm pining for some radar gunnery. Spray n pray is starting to suck. Could we mayhaps get an ETA ballpark figure? I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL
Sryan Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 If I am not mistaken, she should get LCOS as well :) Check my F-15C guide
some1 Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 It's just dogfight hud symbology is not implemented, and most likely it won't be for another month or two. Maybe longer. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
schurem Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 Got a source for that? I'd really hope it be sooner. I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL
SonofEil Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 Is there currently or will there be a rounds remaining indication in our Viper, HUD or MFD? i7 7700K @5.0, 1080Ti, 32GB DDR4, HMD Odyssey, TM WH, Crosswind Rudder...
Notso Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 Is there currently or will there be a rounds remaining indication in our Viper, HUD or MFD? There already is a rounds remaining counter on the SMS MFD. At least it is there in Strafe mode. I haven't looked closely yet in A/A guns. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
some1 Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 Got a source for that? I'd really hope it be sooner. Well, the development in December shifted back to Hornet, so I guess there's not much manpower left for new Viper features. And updates in January are always sparse due to New Year and holidays. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Harker Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Is there currently or will there be a rounds remaining indication in our Viper, HUD or MFD? There are, it's a number on the SMS page, displayed when you are in AA or AG guns modes. It starts at 51 (510 rounds) and goes down as you fire. IIRC it's already implemented in both AG and DGFT modes. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro
Harker Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Well, the development in December shifted back to Hornet, so I guess there's not much manpower left for new Viper features. And updates in January are always sparse due to New Year and holidays. From what I've read, according to the mods and Wags, only the extra people went back to the Hornet, those that were only temporarily transferred to the Viper in the first place. So both modules should have their full teams now. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro
some1 Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 It could be, but I'm not holding my breath. The word "team" in ED language can also mean one person that also has other tasks assigned. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
IRememberJeep Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 If I am not mistaken, she should get LCOS as well :) I cannot wait for this feature in the Viper. This picture makes waiting so much worse. :greedy: I suppose in it’s absence it would be a good time to become proficient in using the funnel.
jaguara5 Posted June 22, 2022 Posted June 22, 2022 Old post, i know, but wanted to ask if we will get the LCOS gun mode, or the -50 variant ED is modelling has only the EEGS gunsight? I want to simulate a pseudo F-16N variant with the lcos sight
Frederf Posted June 22, 2022 Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) I think this variant has options for EEGS, LCOS, and SNAP but it might be missing either of the latter two. EDIT: Think this variant of the F-16 is EEGS-only. Gun is selected in three ways: AA master mode, GUNS (press SMS OSB 1 to change from AAM), AG master mode STRF, and DGFT override. Top picture has an erroneous ASL in it for some reason and shows what looks like level 2 sight. Levels 3 4 5 are when MMC has knowledge of target range, velocity, acceleration respectively. You don't get the "death dot" until level 5. Edited June 23, 2022 by Frederf 1
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