QuiGon Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) I wanted to play the campaign with a friend in coop on the weekend but it seems this isn't really possible, because of the spawning behaviour aboard the carrier. We tried several approaches to spawning (both spawn before mission gets unpaused, both spawn after mission got unpaused, one player spawns before unpause and the other player after unpause, spawn after waiting 8 minutes), but everytime at least one of us ended up exploding because we spawned on another jet or another jet spawned on us. :( I guess this is on ED and there is no way to work around it? I hope this will work better with the new supercarrier... Untill then we will give the Tomcat campaign a try with pilot/RIO coop mode, hoping that spawning works that way at least. Edited January 15, 2020 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 Hi thank you for responding! Yes the saved games folder is under users : C:\Users\15702\Saved Games\DCS But only has these folders: Config data fxo imageshop kneeboard logs metashaders2 missioneditor missions movies screenshots tracks thats all the folders i have. I read somewhere that inorder to have a mods folder i need combined arms? Could that be the issue? Thank you in advance This is my campaigns folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\Mods\aircraft\FA-18C\Missions\Campaigns If you do not have them yet, you can simply create the "C:\Users\15702\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech" structure yourselve. Simply right click into the Saved Games\DCS folder and select New Folder and name it accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 I wanted to play the campaign with a friend in coop on the weekend but it seems this isn't really possible, because of the spawning behaviour aboard the carrier. We tried several approaches to spawning (both spawn before mission gets unpaused, both spawn after mission got unpaused, one player spawns before unpause and the other player after unpause, spawn after waiting 8 minutes), but everytime at least one of us ended up exploding because we spawned on another jet or another jet spawned on us. :( I guess this is on ED and there is no way to work around it? I hope this will work with the new supercarrier... Untill then we will give the Tomcat campaign a try with pilot/RIO coop mode, hoping that spawning works that way at least. We successfuly played some 10 coop missions about a year ago. If I remember correctly we figured out a procedure to get around most spawn crashes. I think it was something like host unpauses for some seconds and pauses again, then everyone gets into the cockpit and when all have loaded, the game is unpaused again. I am not sure if this was really it, but we got it to work somehow. Ultimately all the spawning stuff will hopefully get sorted out in the future by ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 We successfuly played some 10 coop missions about a year ago. If I remember correctly we figured out a procedure to get around most spawn crashes. I think it was something like host unpauses for some seconds and pauses again, then everyone gets into the cockpit and when all have loaded, the game is unpaused again. I am not sure if this was really it, but we got it to work somehow. Ultimately all the spawning stuff will hopefully get sorted out in the future by ED. Hmm, we tried spawning some seconds after unpausing, without pausing again and it didn't work out. I'm not sure how pausing it again would make a difference, but you never know, so we'll give that a try and see what happens. I really hope ED gets this sorted out with the new supercarrier module. It's been like that for too long.. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quax456 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Unfortunatly I did not get the INS allignment updated via the workarrounds... Additionaly some Targets are hard to find without any Sensor or else, like the silkworms in the evening :huh: So....would be nice to play this campaign but not in the current state. My Rig: Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-13700k@5.4GHz, 64GB DDR5 5200 RAM, Gigabyte Z790 AORUS Elite AX, 2TB Samsung 990 PRO, RTX4080, Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG Stick + WINWING ORION 2 + MFG Crosswinds, LG 32" 4K 60FPS, ACER 30" 4K 60FPS GSync Display, HP Reverb G2 V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMN Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 What this it mean ? If Yes - next will be start next mission, if No - will start previos mission again ? Окурок, выброшенный в урну, гораздо патриотичнее флажочка на автомобиле TM Wartrhog Stick + VPC MongoosT-50Base + VPC TMW Extension 150mm / TM Wartrhog Throttle / CH Pro Pedals / 2-VPC Deck Mount / TrackIR5/ __________________________________________________________ i5-10600K Over to 5.0MHz/32GbDD4-3200/RTX4070/System-SSD1 DCS-SSD2/32" 2560x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedeyeStorm Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 @smn, that is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianky Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Yeah, exactly that SMN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianky Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Hey MBot, could you check this thread, please? https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=261141 It looks like somehow CCIP is not working in 1990.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirchuzzalot Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Can't get it working I've tried really hard to get this campaign to work but I can't seem to get it up and running. I've managed to get it to generate the first mission using the .bat file but if I run DCS the campaign is listed on the campaigns page but there are no missions to select to start the campaign. Is anyone else having this issue. I've read the instructions about 20 times and made sure I have all the paths correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 if I run DCS the campaign is listed on the campaigns page but there are no missions to select to start the campaign. Can you elaborate on this? You go to Campaigns and it should be listed under the DCE tab. Then you start the campaign by pressing Start or New Campaign or something alike. There is no mission to select. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianky Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hey MBot, could you check this thread, please? https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=261141 It looks like somehow CCIP is not working in 1990.... Hey MBot, sorry to pester you, any idea on the above? Anyone else, actually, any idea why CCIP doesn't work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirchuzzalot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Can you elaborate on this? You go to Campaigns and it should be listed under the DCE tab. Then you start the campaign by pressing Start or New Campaign or something alike. There is no mission to select. When you go into the campaign page where there is all the different modules you have along the left side I can see your mod there. But when I select it - as you do if you want to play a campaign or a mission - there's no first mission you can select to begin the campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 When you go into the campaign page where there is all the different modules you have along the left side I can see your mod there. But when I select it - as you do if you want to play a campaign or a mission - there's no first mission you can select to begin the campaign That strongly indicates that the Battle Group Delta campaign is installed incorrectly. The structure must be: ...\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\DCE\Missions\Campaigns\FA-18C Battle Group Delta.cmp ...\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\DCE\Missions\Campaigns\FA-18C Battle Group Delta_first.miz ...\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\DCE\Missions\Campaigns\FA-18C Battle Group Delta_ongoing.miz ...\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\DCE\Missions\Campaigns\FA-18C Battle Group Delta\Active\ etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hey MBot, sorry to pester you, any idea on the above? Anyone else, actually, any idea why CCIP doesn't work? Did you do the INS alignment? https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4116515&postcount=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianky Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Did you do the INS alignment? https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4116515&postcount=2 I'm going by heart here, so something might not be perfectly accurate, but here's how it went down. Yes, I did the INS alignment, and everything worked correctly, map was there and HSI was showing the correct distance to the WPs. The other thing I did was to write down the coordinates of the targets I wanted to hit with my bombs, then create new WPs to use as targets. I got to the IP, turned toward the mission generated target WP, then switched MA on and A2G mode. Already at that point, IIRC, the CCIP line was askewed; then I selected the first target WP and WPDSGed it, system switched to AUTO and, IIRC, event the AUTO bomb line wasn't at the center of the HUD, aligned with the target diamond, but on the left side. After that I deselected the target WP, switched back to CCIP and tried to bomb the targets guesstimating everything (needless to say, it was a disaster...) EDIT: Tonight I'll modify a training mission I did, chaging the starting date to 1990, to see if it happens again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parxuk Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'm going by heart here, so something might not be perfectly accurate, but here's how it went down. Yes, I did the INS alignment, and everything worked correctly, map was there and HSI was showing the correct distance to the WPs. The other thing I did was to write down the coordinates of the targets I wanted to hit with my bombs, then create new WPs to use as targets. I got to the IP, turned toward the mission generated target WP, then switched MA on and A2G mode. Already at that point, IIRC, the CCIP line was askewed; then I selected the first target WP and WPDSGed it, system switched to AUTO and, IIRC, event the AUTO bomb line wasn't at the center of the HUD, aligned with the target diamond, but on the left side. After that I deselected the target WP, switched back to CCIP and tried to bomb the targets guesstimating everything (needless to say, it was a disaster...) EDIT: Tonight I'll modify a training mission I did, chaging the starting date to 1990, to see if it happens again. I had the same issue with CCIP. I thought it was just me not knowing what I was doing. Intel i7 8700K @ 5Ghz, Aorus Z370 Gaming5, 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3000MHz, Nvidia 3080Ti FE, Samsung 970 NVME, Samsung 512GB EVO SSD x 2, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Rudder Pedals, HP Reverb G2, Windows 11 x64, DCS Modules = FC3, A10c Warthog, F14 Tomcat, F18 Hornet, F16 Viper, Persian Gulf, Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianky Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I had the same issue with CCIP. I thought it was just me not knowing what I was doing. You aren't the only one: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=261141 Thread was closed and dubbed as solved, I hope I'll have time to try on a custom mission tonight, I'll let you guys know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirchuzzalot Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 That strongly indicates that the Battle Group Delta campaign is installed incorrectly. The structure must be: ...\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\DCE\Missions\Campaigns\FA-18C Battle Group Delta.cmp ...\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\DCE\Missions\Campaigns\FA-18C Battle Group Delta_first.miz ...\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\DCE\Missions\Campaigns\FA-18C Battle Group Delta_ongoing.miz ...\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\DCE\Missions\Campaigns\FA-18C Battle Group Delta\Active\ etc... That's the file structure I have. Except for the \Active\ folder - but I guess that is created when you start the campaign. Thanks for your help by the way :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 That's the file structure I have. Except for the \Active\ folder - but I guess that is created when you start the campaign. Thanks for your help by the way :thumbup: The (empty) Active folder should be there too from the beginning, it is part of the zip file (together with a bunch of other folders, such as Init, Debug, Debriefing etc.). The fact that you do not have it indicates that the zip was not extracted correctly. I suggest you check that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirchuzzalot Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 The (empty) Active folder should be there too from the beginning, it is part of the zip file (together with a bunch of other folders, such as Init, Debug, Debriefing etc.). The fact that you do not have it indicates that the zip was not extracted correctly. I suggest you check that again. Thanks for that. I'll try restart over from scratch and see if I can get it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirchuzzalot Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Still can't get this running. I've set out everything as per the instructions but and I still end up with the same problem. There is no mission to select to start the campaign. I've tried clicking on the "okay" or "restart" at the bottom but these are not active while there's no mission to select. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. The mission bat file generates the first mission successfully but nothing appears in DCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirchuzzalot Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Still can't get this running. I've set out everything as per the instructions but and I still end up with the same problem. There is no mission to select to start the campaign. I've tried clicking on the "okay" or "restart" at the bottom but these are not active while there's no mission to select. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. The mission bat file generates the first mission successfully but nothing appears in DCS. Basically I'm a massive idiot and it is now going. :doh::doh::doh: - do I have Gulf map? No. Bought the map btw so I'm trying out your campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianky Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Hey guys! So, last week I tested if the date is affecting the workings of CCIP. First, I modified a practice mission in Caucasus I normally use to drop dumb bombs, changing the date to June 1st 1990. I added some waypoints, took the same loadout I had in the campaign mission and went up, doing exactly what I did in the aforementioned mission. Everything went smoothly and CCIP worked normally. So, I decided to fly again the strike mission in the BG Delta campaign.... and, well, CCIP didn't work, again. As you can see in the screenshots (sorry for the resolution, they're taken in VR), INS was aligned and working (as you can see in the first 2 ss, WP distance is diminishing), I setup the 83s for single bomb CCIP release, and when I selected the bomb the CCIP line was slanted and totally unuseable... Anyone has any idea why the systems are working this way? Next mission is another strike one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 This has been already reported, but no ETA when or if it will be fixed. For now, the only viable solution, it seems, it to change the mission date past April 1994, for GPS to be available. AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + Thustmaster TWCS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | HP Reverb G2 FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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