Window is out of focus

[Bearskin]

I am getting this "Window is out of focus" message in orange writing at the top of the screen since the last major update, using the OB version with a Rift in VR. When it appears I have no input controls the only thing that works is the mouse. Clicking the mouse anywhere on the screen clears the message and everything works again. There is no pattern to it appearing, it can appear in the online server page, whilst taxiing to the runway, on a bombing run or doing training missions in single player, 1 minute or 1 hour into game time, once a night or 6 or 7 times in a night. The game still carries on when it appears but the throttle, joystick and pedals act as if they are not plugged in. I have tried ticking the full screen, unticking the full screen and changed monitor res in the options to see if it stops the message but unfortunately it doesn't. I was online with a mate last night and he said he was getting it too so I thought it was just online but I was getting the message today whilst training in the Blackshark. Its not a big deal as mouse clicking onscreen fixes it for a while but just wondering if anyone else has experienced it.

[rrohde]

You might want to make sure that no other app is running in Windows whose window sits on top of DCS. The out of focus warning is just to alert you to that fact.

 

I had, for example, Steam VR sitting on top of DCS and I dragged it to the side, and all is well.

[Bearskin]

Thanks again for the reply rrhode, the only programs I have open when DCS is open are, MSI afterburner and oculus home, both are minimised to the task bar, so the only thing showing on my monitor is the DCS windowed / mirrored screen which uses the middle third of my monitor. Never seen this message before in the 7+ years I have been playing DCS.

 

 

Edit, Thinking back one thing that triggers the out of focus message is when I am in the hornet and I go to flick the FLIR switch, if I glance down to the switch and the switch is in the bottom say 20% of my vision and I press the mouse button to flick the switch, the mouse white cross disappears and the out of focus message comes on but if I look further back so the FLIR switch is in the middle of my vision, and I flick the switch, then everything carries on as normal.

 

 

Edit2 So after testing this anything I click on that is on the outer edge of my vision (out of the sweet spot) causes the OOF message.

Edited February 27, 2020 by Bearskin

[Bearskin]

I finally got around to playing PC2 in VR, the first game I have played in VR since the windows OOF message appeared in DCS as I didn't know if it was DCS or Oculus. I didn't get the OOF message in PC2. I have only seen this mentioned 3 times, twice on these forums and once on Steam DCS problem forums, also my mate said he was getting it so it must not be a common problem.

 

 

Edit:

No windows is out of focus on ACC either.

Edited March 15, 2020 by Bearskin

[LuckyFromArma]

Have you tried checking the box in Options/VR "Cursor confined to game window"?

[Bearskin]

Cursor confined is checked, I just tried it and it is the worst it has been, multiplayer server screen, clicking exit, maybe a dozen times the windows OOF message came up even when I was looking directly at the exit button, eventually it worked and I could exit. I tried with the cursor unchecked and the same thing, maybe 10-15 clicks and windows OOF every time. Might be time for a re install and hopefully that fixes it. Lost count of the times I have hit the deck strafing because the OOF message appears and no inputs work but the game carries on.

[CobaltUK]

Your not alone and as you recognised this annoying `feature` seemed to come with an update. What's going on I would guess is that despite confine selected, somehow the cursor click cuts through and makes the desktop focus.

[Quadg]

Thanks again for the reply rrhode, the only programs I have open when DCS is open are, MSI afterburner and oculus home, both are minimised to the task bar, so the only thing showing on my monitor is the DCS windowed / mirrored screen which uses the middle third of my monitor. Never seen this message before in the 7+ years I have been playing DCS.

 

 

Edit, Thinking back one thing that triggers the out of focus message is when I am in the hornet and I go to flick the FLIR switch, if I glance down to the switch and the switch is in the bottom say 20% of my vision and I press the mouse button to flick the switch, the mouse white cross disappears and the out of focus message comes on but if I look further back so the FLIR switch is in the middle of my vision, and I flick the switch, then everything carries on as normal.

 

 

Edit2 So after testing this anything I click on that is on the outer edge of my vision (out of the sweet spot) causes the OOF message.

 

you are clicking on the windows start bar and switching focus.

even with the mouse ticked to stay in game window it will leave slightly.

 

drag your start bar to the side and have it vertical.

then its to far away from the game window for the mouse to reach.

 

or Alt-enter and go full screen. then the mouse cannot leave the edge.

 

but if you record you cannot use full screen.

so move the start bar.

 

mine has been up the side for a while. (3 years)

Edited March 20, 2020 by Quadg

[Bearskin]

Quadg, you are a star mate. Moved the task bar up to the side and so far no more OOF messages.

[eaglecash867]

I get this too on my machine, but it only seems to be on the loading screen when first starting DCS in WMR. Once its done loading, the message goes away, and its all back to normal.

[CobaltUK]

Its an issue introduced. It was not there in the past.

[ElvisDaKang]

This is an Oculus issue correct ??

[imacken]

I get this too on my machine, but it only seems to be on the loading screen when first starting DCS in WMR. Once its done loading, the message goes away, and its all back to normal.

 

Yep, same here.

[ElvisDaKang]

This IS a DCS issue relative to Oculus.

 

 

I tested Oculus with 9 other VR applications. NO issue.

[ElvisDaKang]

And it happens before mission start leaving me unable to select FLY.

 

 

 

 

Although it first occurred in flight and locked me out of the controls after it put up the WINDOW OUT OF FOCUS MESSAGE.

 

 

I will standby and let ED unscrew this.

[ElvisDaKang]

drag your start bar to the side and have it vertical.

then its to far away from the game window for the mouse to reach.

 

 

 

 

Thanks !

 

 

Understand this is a TEMP fix - but this issue should be addressed so this is not necessary.

[ElvisDaKang]

Moved task bar to the side. No effect. Cannot select fly as the cursor will not go there.

 

 

Cursor confined to window is selected. Can not click fly to start mission.

 

 

Sim is now NON flyable in VR

[ElvisDaKang]

By the way I am using DCS on STEAM. Steam also recently pushed a STEAM VR patch so I have no idea whether this is Steam VR or DCS issue.

 

 

 

I am done with it in VR (and posting about it) unless a fix comes forward from who ever it needs to come from.

[Burner]

Same issue here with a Reverb. I've seen the "Window out of focus" reminder before but had no issues with it until recently and controls lock up. It has happened the last 3 times that I've flown. Hopefully moving the taskbar off to the right side will fix it. Annoying.

[Svsmokey]

I have two other flightsims in addition to DCS . Windows is losing focus in all of them . The only things common to all are Windows (new installation) and Oculus (forced update) .

[Drac]

Same here with "Windows out of Focus". However, no impact for me...Reverb.

[speed-of-heat]

The message is telling you that the mouse is outside of the dcs game window, so another app has the focus... it goes away when dcs has the mouse has focus,

[VitS]

Do you have any applications running that show their windows on top of other windows? Like OTT or Oculus Debug Tool? If you try to minimize them

[Svsmokey]

Had the issue yesterday running latest stable , when hitting "escape" . Instantly had out of focus , and alt+tab didn't help . Hit "escape" again to get back in sim . After doing this 3-4 times , i finally was able to select an option in the 2d window .

Ran the previous OB update without issue afterwards .

[Chevydriver]

FWIW, I am getting the "Windows out of focus" message on my Samsung Odyssey+ as well. I updated Steam VR and my Nvidia drivers to the latest version and this issue remains.

 

 

Edited to add: If I closed all windows on desktop - including the Steam VR tab, then the issue went away.

Edited June 5, 2020 by Chevydriver
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