wizav Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 The most amazing and the most interesting plane to fly in WW2 :))) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 We already have one. Oh wait, you mean flyable? Well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivo Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 The most amazing and the most interesting plane to fly in WW2 :))) yeaaaaaaa The Final Action cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statrekmike Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 There are more than likely two (probably controversial) issues that really need to be considered. 1.) The B-17 was strategic bomber and a big part of its design (and thus flying experience) was based around range, high altitude performance, and everything that goes with that. While I know this is something that some will balk at, DCS maps are simply not large enough to really support a B-17 taking off, flying to the target, and landing without the experience feeling rather abbreviated to say the least. 2.) Multi-crew is still kinda coming into its own for DCS and the B-17 would really, really require good, stable, fully functional multi-crew on a level that would at least be difficult to develop. If you were to suggest something smaller like the A-20, Blenheim, or the like, I think they would be a good fit for DCS's obvious emphasis on tactical (rather than strategic) scale aircraft operations. Likewise, the fewer seats and positions, the easier it would be to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 To say nothing of two more engines than ED is interested in modeling . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizav Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 There are more than likely two (probably controversial) issues that really need to be considered. 1.) The B-17 was strategic bomber and a big part of its design (and thus flying experience) was based around range, high altitude performance, and everything that goes with that. While I know this is something that some will balk at, DCS maps are simply not large enough to really support a B-17 taking off, flying to the target, and landing without the experience feeling rather abbreviated to say the least. 2.) Multi-crew is still kinda coming into its own for DCS and the B-17 would really, really require good, stable, fully functional multi-crew on a level that would at least be difficult to develop. If you were to suggest something smaller like the A-20, Blenheim, or the like, I think they would be a good fit for DCS's obvious emphasis on tactical (rather than strategic) scale aircraft operations. Likewise, the fewer seats and positions, the easier it would be to make. Would anyone here like to fly 4000 km to bomb something, seriously? :D Multicrew would be great, imagine interceptor players attacking you while you shoot them from gun pods... Also the joy of flying this 4 engine beast would be awesome even without combat scenario [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statrekmike Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Would anyone here like to fly 4000 km to bomb something, seriously? :D Multicrew would be great, imagine interceptor players attacking you while you shoot them from gun pods... Also the joy of flying this 4 engine beast would be awesome even without combat scenario Speaking for myself? Yes. I mean, not all the time but I would at least like the option to fly a authentic feeling mission for the DCS module I buy. That is the key point here. Thus far, ED and third parties have smartly kept to aircraft that operate on a scale that works for the maps that we have and will have in the future. While it is possible for players to fly very abbreviated missions with the modules we have, it is also possible for a certain subset of players to create and fly authentically scaled missions quite comfortably. If ED or a third party were to suddenly start doing large strategic scale aircraft, it would not be possible to create realistic/authentic feeling missions for them AT ALL. I am sure that some would still have fun with them regardless but I suspect that ED wants all the modules to have at least the potential for a mostly realistic/authentic mission in the framework provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) Multicrew would be great, imagine interceptor players attacking you while you shoot them from gun pods... you are only imagining success, reality will be you eating flaming dookie immediately and your friends never wanting to do it again because its such a waste of time and playerslots to sink into one slow and vulnerable airplane and you will cry to the server admin and all the forums about how disappointing and unfair all of it is the only place this would fly are private pve missions Edited May 1, 2020 by probad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evoman Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Like someones has already said DCS is still not there yet to really support something like the B-17 along with other long haul bombers. So for now I think something like the B-25 Mitchell would be more feasible. My favorite would be the PBJ-1H and PBJ-1J Navy variets with more guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The LT Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 you are only imagining success, reality will be you eating flaming dookie immediately and your friends never wanting to do it again because its such a waste of time and playerslots to sink into one slow and vulnerable airplane and you will cry to the server admin and all the forums about how disappointing and unfair all of it is the only place this would fly are private pve missionsTHIS!!!!! My controls & seat Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat) Stick grips: Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Cougar (x2) Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS BRD KG13 Standby controls: BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller) BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller) Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle Pilot seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I agree a medium bomber would make for a much better choice. It fits the scope much better, doesn't require solutions to just as many problems at once and thus is a great stepping stone. Adding to Evoman's suggestion, perhaps even go for an A-20, which requires even fewer crewmembers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I remember YEARS ago, there was a B-17 simulation, albeit with primitive graphics. You could be a bombardier with the norden bombsight, co-pilot, pilot, gunner.. Would be amazing to have something like this in DCS. Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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