Anyone planning on getting the 3090 for VR?

[Motomouse]

I dont want no tensor cores and raytracing. I want a faster GPU. When will they ever learn ;-)

[Motomouse]

Real problem is you need no faster GPUs for flat screen games and VR users are only a small group.

[imacken]

The 3080 doesn't seem like it's much of an upgrade over the 2080ti at 4k.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-synthetic-and-gaming-performance-leaked

 

19% for the 3080 over the 2080ti at 4k in rasterization/DX11 (Far Cry New Dawn)

 

18% with DX12/DLSS/4k (Shadow of the Tomb Raider)

 

We'll see what things look like for the 3090 in a week and a half but I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

I'm beginning to wonder myself now. If we are talking about a 20% gain at 4K and VR, then I may hold back on this purchase. But, let's wait and see some real benchmarking.

[Fusedspine33]

The 3080 doesn't seem like it's much of an upgrade over the 2080ti at 4k.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-synthetic-and-gaming-performance-leaked

 

19% for the 3080 over the 2080ti at 4k in rasterization/DX11 (Far Cry New Dawn)

 

18% with DX12/DLSS/4k (Shadow of the Tomb Raider)

 

We'll see what things look like for the 3090 in a week and a half but I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

 

From the charts, I thought the hook/jab here was the 3080 is at about half the cost of the 2080ti.

 

 

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[imacken]

From the charts, I thought the hook/jab here was the 3080 is at about half the cost of the 2080ti.

 

 

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Yes, it looks like a good deal, but not necessarily if you are a 2080 Ti owner. We’re trying to decide whether to upgrade or not. 20% won’t hack it!

[Fusedspine33]

Yes, it looks like a good deal, but not necessarily if you are a 2080 Ti owner.

 

 

I wasn't trying to rub salt. I still run a 1080ti for my DCS PC. It drives a 4K screen and a second screen for my front dash. The 20xx series brought the new RTX features which aren't used here and not much raw horsepower. I love VR, but DCS looks great on a 55" panel. Interested to see if the 3090 can pull off 3 - 4K panels.

 

 

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[imacken]

I wasn't trying to rub salt. I still run a 1080ti for my DCS PC. It drives a 4K screen and a second screen for my front dash. The 20xx series brought the new RTX features which aren't used here and not much raw horsepower. I love VR, but DCS looks great on a 55" panel. Interested to see if the 3090 can pull off 3 - 4K panels.

 

 

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Haha! No salt rubbing taken! The 2080 Ti is a great card and I always upgrade, but I’m just beginning to wonder about how much of an upgrade the 3080 or even the 3090 will be. Believe me, if the benchmarks show a 50% improvement, I’ll be hitting that button!

[Motomouse]

+20%

 

45 FPS -> 54 FPS

 

impressive ;-)

Edited September 13, 2020 by Motomouse

[speed-of-heat]

45 is usually what people get because they have motion smoothing enabled, you need to turn that off to get your true frame rate....

[Waxer]

I dont want no tensor cores and raytracing. I want a faster GPU. When will they ever learn ;-)

 

OK boomer!

:megalol:

 

Just kidding.

[Supmua]

Real problem is you need no faster GPUs for flat screen games and VR users are only a small group.

 

While your second statement is true, I really disagree with the first. For modern games with modern PC setup, GPU is the limiting factor and that's why people are rushing out benchmarks for all those games out there to show substantial gain in FPS.

 

We're no longer in the dark ages and gaming at low res is no longer the norm. If you play at 540p yeah sure the GPU won't help much, but who would do that these days. At high resolution it is the GPU that will dictate your FPS.

 

Not convinced? Check out this video below.

Edited September 14, 2020 by Supmua

[imacken]

While your second statement is true, I really disagree with the first. For modern games with modern PC setup, GPU is the limiting factor and that's why people are rushing out benchmarks for all those games out there to show substantial gain in FPS.

 

We're no longer in the dark ages and gaming at low res is no longer the norm. If you play at 540p yeah sure the GPU won't help much, but who would do that these days. At high resolution it is the GPU that will dictate your FPS.

 

Not convinced? Check out this video below.

 

While that’s true, any benefit depends on your current hardware. For me, on a monitor, I run demanding games at 4K on ultra settings at a solid, frame limited 60 fps using a 2080 Ti.

The only area I will see an improvement with a faster GPU is VR in DCS. That is unless I buy a 4K 144MHz monitor, of course.

[Djdirty76]

Are you sure you meant to say 1080ti and not 2080ti, otherwise that is not that impressive?

 

 

 

Yes I’m sure. 2080ti does the same test at 115fps. And 2080 super at 100fps.

Edited September 14, 2020 by Djdirty76

[Supmua]

I run in 4K as well and I do not get solid 60 fps in Channel or Normandy maps (F-16 free flying mission). Now add some export panels (DDI, AMPCD) to that setup, turn on the mirrors, and the fps will drop even more.

 

Saying that you don’t need a new GPU for flat screen games is simply not true and too generalized. There are newer games that are much more demanding (than DCS), and there are also a lot of people who will benefit from more powerful GPU for DCS, myself included.

[imacken]

I run in 4K as well and I do not get solid 60 fps in Channel or Normandy maps (F-16 free flying mission). Now add some export panels (DDI, AMPCD) to that setup, turn on the mirrors, and the fps will drop even more.

 

Saying that you don’t need a new GPU for flat screen games is simply not true and too generalized. There are newer games that are much more demanding (than DCS), and there are also a lot of people who will benefit from more powerful GPU for DCS, myself included.

 

Unlike you, I do get a solid 60fps on Channel and Normandy. If I didn't, I would agree with you.

 

Saying that I don't need a new GPU for flat screen games simply IS TRUE - at the moment. I run DRD2, Battlefield V and DCS etc. at ultra settings at a rock solid 60 fps. what could I improve?

 

Even in VR on my Reverb, I have solid 90 fps on titles like Project Cars 2 and HL:A.

 

So, let me repeat, for me, the only areas where I need a new GPU are VR in DCS, or if I buy a 144Hz monitor.

 

Having said all that, I almost certainly will buy a 3080 or 3090 because that's what I do, not necessarily because I actually need to spend more cash!

Edited September 14, 2020 by imacken

[Motomouse]

I am sure there are a FEW people out there needing faster GPUs for flat screens. But the majority of potential gaming customers does not even own hardware to profit by faster GPUs. Ergo NVidia has enough time to develop fancy features for deep learning, raytracing and business customers, but does not focus enough for our niche needs for faster rasterization. But dont take me too seriously here, I just want to shorten my waiting time for my next GPU ;-)

[dburne]

Going to be interesting to see what I can get my hands on first.

My Reverb G2 I have on pre-order.

Or an EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3.

 

Hopefully both will be close together.

[Motomouse]

Looking forward to your review on the dream set!

[pimp]

Me too!

[Supmua]

It seems we are splitting hair especially in this VR thread. So I’m just going to stop here and post some numbers when I have my GPU.

[imacken]

Does anyone know when the embargo on benchmark reviews is scheduled to be lifted?

[Svsmokey]

16th i think . (For the 3080)

 

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/09/11/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-sales-begin-oct-15-rtx-3080-review-embargo-lifting-sept-16/

[imacken]

Answering my own question, from what I read, it looks like Wednesday at 2pm BST for the 3080.

Edited September 14, 2020 by imacken

[Harlikwin]

So anyone know which 3rd parties will have 3090's at release? EVGA I saw, and obviously NVIDA... Anyone know any big differences between them yet?

[Svsmokey]

Yes , degree of ugliness . Not an issue for me , but the rgb guys are going nuts !