Missing functionality in the Harrier

[Swift.]

LAR on EHSD:

 

The PB does not toggle the LAR as it should

 

''Selecting this option enables the display of the Launch Acceptable Region (LAR) for the Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) on the EHSD.''

 

23.9.37 pg 23-47 NATOPS

[Hawkeye_UK]

LAR on EHSD:

 

The PB does not toggle the LAR as it should

 

''Selecting this option enables the display of the Launch Acceptable Region (LAR) for the Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) on the EHSD.''

 

23.9.37 pg 23-47 NATOPS

 

Having the EHSD come up on the correct MFD would be a start from the Hotas function.

[Marsvinet]

I have added some more of the things you've mentioned to the first post now.

 

I copied this from the other thread. Looks like most of this is probably mentioned but in case it isn't I reposted it.

*Nice List*

 

I'd say all of these are covered in the summary on the first page summary. Please correct me if you think otherwise

 

INS drift math model is available for free, scientists already did the hard job, it's not a black magic. There's no a single reason to not be modeled in game.

 

I have seen data for both INS drift with and without GPS/IFA. Available in that harrier TGP error doc.

 

Interesting that the INS drift info is that public, guess I have missed it. Nothing stopping on that end then.

[Swift.]

There is currently no way to trip the JPTL by pushing the throttle through it. I believe this is done IRL by pushing through a detent that will prevent movement of the throttle too fast.

 

Perhaps something where movement of the users throttle above a certain speed will trip the JPTL?

[ChickenSim]

There is currently no way to trip the JPTL by pushing the throttle through it. I believe this is done IRL by pushing through a detent that will prevent movement of the throttle too fast.

 

Perhaps something where movement of the users throttle above a certain speed will trip the JPTL?

 

IRL it is a 35-lb. trip sensor.

 

When I brought this to Razbam's attention back in December 2017, they told me they intended to include this as a button press or modifier (they mentioned something like their Mirage solution for a similar "hard stop" there).

 

I do not know how much of the DECU, MFS, or JPTL systems are modeled or simulated in high fidelity, beyond what they should look like in certain regimes.

[Swift.]

COLOR option on various MPCD displays. To change the colour of the symbology.

 

eg, pg 23-48 NATOPS 23.9.42.1.1 2nd Paragraph

[Xoho]

VREST page nozzle rotation values are placeholders, and not functional. They do not adjust with weight, or altitude. See this thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=285533

[Swift.]

Missing coords from the FLIR display

 

[NineLine]

Sorry I missed this guys, even after asking for it, doh... I am on it now, thanks!

[Pikey]

Missing IFF. The UFC button does nothing and the MFCD button does nothing. Unconfigurable. IFF IDENT is pressable and bound in the DCS Viper.

 

Purpose of having IFF configurable is to allow interfacing with systems outside DCS like SRS, LotATC, so that squadrons wishing to use proper IFF (not DCS magic mode 4, can.

[Devrim]

Marsvinet is right, two post below.

I'm sorry.

 

 

Hi.

 

Please note that:

There's something wrong with Customized Cockpit feature.

Harrier doesn't see any cockpit mod folder in Saved Games or Program Files folder.

Mustangs (two variations and TF-51D) have the same bug, by the way.

 

This may be a low priority bug, but I just wanted to report.

 

Thanks.

 

Edited September 11, 2020 by Devrim

[Aernov]

Deleted all the bugs from this post, sorry. Missing features are:

 

- EHSD overlays are not complete: OVL2 (planned route display) and NSEQ route display are operational (although sometimes I get a crash when fiddling with NSEQ), but OVL1 (the one that supposed to display SAM ranges and other SA information) only displays AAR zones that has been set in mission editor.

- Snakeeyes and Mk.92 Air are always deploying their braking devices, even if you select low drag release mode (I think it worked as intended some time ago, so, probably, bug).

Edited September 11, 2020 by Aernov
Posted bugs in missing functionality thread, sorry

[Marsvinet]

Guys, some of you are posting what are clear bugs. This thread is meant to highlight what is simply missing from the Harrier. I know the line is kinda blurred in the case of the Harrier, so if you think otherwise, please say so. Otherwise, please post the bugs in the "Bugs and problems" section where Tea_cypher is doing a great job going through all that is posted.

[ricktoberfest]

FM peculiarities:

 

Transonic Wing Drop

 

 

 

Force Divergence Mach Number/Drag Rise

 

 

Kinematic Coupling

 

 

AOA Lag During high AOA and/or g onset rates

 

 

 

Loaded Rolls Loaded rolls create stability problems

 

 

Angle of Attack Sensitivity As airspeed decreases, AOA increases.

 

 

Stick Lightening

 

 

Air Refueling Probe Effect

 

 

If that’s a valid source then we also seem to be missing the maneuvering tone (probably like the A10 stall warning beep)

 

 

Modules: A10C, F5, F14, F16, F18, F86, AV8B, UH1, Mi8, Ka50, FC3, Supercarrier, CA, P47, P51

[bkthunder]

If that’s a valid source then we also seem to be missing the maneuvering tone (probably like the A10 stall warning beep)

 

 

Modules: A10C, F5, F14, F16, F18, F86, AV8B, UH1, Mi8, Ka50, FC3, Supercarrier, CA, P47, P51

 

It's the NATOPS, I guess it's a valid source :smilewink:

[ricktoberfest]

It's the NATOPS, I guess it's a valid source :smilewink:

 

 

I meant for our version of the barrier.

I should have been more clear

 

 

Modules: A10C, F5, F14, F16, F18, F86, AV8B, UH1, Mi8, Ka50, FC3, Supercarrier, CA, P47, P51

[Swift.]

We aren't missing the manoeuvring tone, have a look in the relevant section of natops, you will see that it comes in at the prescribed AOA and Mach.

 

There is however a potential bug with the FM related to said tone:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=285559

[Marsvinet]

Added the FM things from you, BK

[bkthunder]

:thumbup:

Added the FM things from you, BK

[BIGNEWY]

thread reopened

 

I will have to ask you all to remember our 1.16 rule

 

1.16 Posting of images, file links, file sharing links, and copying and pasting information is prohibited if the source document is from a classified or ITAR controlled source.

When posting aircraft, sensor or weapon information more recent than 1980, you must also include the source of the document showing that it is 100% public and verified as not from a classified or non-ITAR controlled source. To not do so will result in the removal of the message.

[Shrike88]

Greetings.

 

In its current state there is no effect or damage modeling whatsoever for the landing gear due to lowering in speed regimes in far excess of any of the current gear limitations for the aircraft. Obviously an extreme but we are currently able to extend/retract the landing gear in excess of 500kts.

 

There is no damage to the system modeled , nor any type of system slow down or hydraulic strain due to any form of parasitic drag.

 

This seems to be a current standard of every other module found in DCS I am familiar with, and we do not have in the AV-8B and am still surprised its not currently implemented.

 

Thanks

Edited September 13, 2020 by Shrike88

[arturojgt]

Inverted hud reject switch and offset in the RWR

 

 

Dream Commodore 64C, 1530 datasette, 1541 floppy disk drive, DCS cartridge, competition pro joystick, 14” Tv with VCR.

[Shrike88]

This should help also with previous issues with the HUD Repeater, Symbology size that is modeled incorrectly as well as missing settings some of our pages., VSI and AS Trend vectors on HUD Also Sounds

 

 

 

 

EHSD MAP -

 

Rocket and PUC -

Edited September 14, 2020 by Shrike88

[Schmidtfire]

AGM-122 Primary & Hot mode. Missing Cage/Uncage functionality. Missing HUD symbology for caged seeker. Missing symbology when uncaged seeker symbology is HUD limited. Sensitivity should increase when uncaged.

 

TPOD - Laser Spot Search. Video does not freeze when in search mode.

[bkthunder]

Ability to taxi at IDLE power and adjust speed just by moving the nozzles