2080Ti vs RTX 3090 for VR

[Supmua]

Which 3090's are you guys getting? Just whichever one was available?

 

I keep checking for the FE but nothing available.

 

I preordered MSI gaming X Trio with Provantage, shipping date is Nov 2nd. I do prefer Asus since it is my typical go to brand but can’t find it anywhere. This MSI model has decent cooler so I’m ok with it as long as I don’t find any available Asus card before it ships.

 

FE is good since you are guaranteed the highest tier chip. So if you can get around the BIOS power/thermal limit (reflash BIOS, cranking up the fans) you can overclock it by quite a bit.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Supmua

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

None of the 30 series card really overclock very well. There's very little 'headroom'.

The FE cards do boost themselves a little higher but in performance the difference is usually in the 1% range.

 

The FE cards are (imo) better looking though. And cheaper.

 

I've been deciding between the 3080 and 3090, personally i went for the 3080 because i was able to get it 2 days after launch .

 

For the performance difference between the 3080 and 3090 alone (around 10%) i would never even consider the 3090 . For the VRAM, who knows. I have no idea how much VRAM is ACTUALLY used (not "allocated" but used) in various games.

 

I wish someone would do some GOOD vr testing on that. Data about actual VRAM usage seems really hard to find unfortunately.

 

Interesting times to upgrade that's for sure. Apparently AMD 's "zen 3" cpu is also very promising.

 

@harlikin , 30 series is pretty good. I'm using Steam 300% now with HP reverb (200% or 300% really makes a difference in sharpness), also 2x msaa , and ultra visibility range. Textures high, shadows high. It just looks pretty good. Hope the G2 won't disappoint. I heard it needs an extra power cable now (that goes in the wall socket) . Not a fan of that but it is what it is.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Csgo GE oh yeah

[RealDCSpilot]

Steam VR beta just updated: "Maximum automatic render resolution limit is now calculated based on gpu dedicated memory; it was previously hardcoded to 1.5x the headset driver recommended resolution. This should have little to no impact on existing headset and video card combinations, but will scale better as displays become higher res and gpus more powerful."

 

Perfect timing.

[Snake122]

Which 3090's are you guys getting? Just whichever one was available?

 

I keep checking for the FE but nothing available.

Thanks to you guys, I have a MSI at Provantage and a PNY from Office Depot. The first time Office Depot listed them they went out of stock but I checked Tuesday morning and got one in stock. It is taking forever to ship though, with an estimated delivery date of 10/8. Between the two, I like the MSI looks and features better, but they are supposed to have 5 POSCAPs (although the latest drivers may have fixed the crashing). There is almost no info out there about the PNY card and not a big fan of RGB lighting. But as long as Office Depot gets it here next week, I'll probably settle for it and cancel the Provantage order

 

I've pretty much have given up on a FE. I'd love to get one but doubt I'll be able to and they are super heavy which would make for a creative mounting solution.

 

Since I have an ASUS Tuf motherboard, I really wanted a Tuf 3090 even before the capacitor controversy, but missed my chance Tuesday when Newegg got them in stock and missed the notification email.

 

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[hansangb]

Got my 3090 today and it really makes a difference. The most important feature are the 24GB VRAM for VR in DCS. I had the occasional stutter problem in MP sessions, mostly after switching aircraft where i already suspected that it breaks the 11GB barrier of my 2080ti. Now everything is pretty smooth at 2880x3200 per eye on the Index, most settings maxed out, even MSAA at 4x. No more stuttering, switching aircraft goes pretty fast (geometry and textures load sooo fast!). It's still throwing money at the problem, but this time i'm really happy how it works out.

 

 

Well *clearly* you're lying. There's no need to for 3090. There's no need for 3090. there's no reason to upgrade. there's....no...reason.

 

checking EVGA for AIO 3090.....

 

:D:D:D

 

Damn you!!!!!!! LOL. I hope you enjoy it, sounds wonderful.:thumbup:

[RealDCSpilot]

You can't imagine my big fat smile yesterday when i tested this, i was happy like a little boy. Extreme highres for both eyes, very high visual quality settings + 4x MSAA on top and still a smooth and pleasant flight experience. This GPU generation is the first one that has enough steam to tackle high quality VR for real. Imagine, if DCS's engine wouldn't be that badly CPU bound, what would be possible...

[orcus]

Interesting. He didn't say what HMD he was using (I don't think). But the fact that 3090 let's you jack up SS w/o penalty is interesting.

 

He’s using the index for the tests I found a reply he made on he’s YouTube video

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

Thanks to you guys, I have a MSI at Provantage and a PNY from Office Depot. The first time Office Depot listed them they went out of stock but I checked Tuesday morning and got one in stock. It is taking forever to ship though, with an estimated delivery date of 10/8. Between the two, I like the MSI looks and features better, but they are supposed to have 5 POSCAPs (although the latest drivers may have fixed the crashing). There is almost no info out there about the PNY card and not a big fan of RGB lighting. But as long as Office Depot gets it here next week, I'll probably settle for it and cancel the Provantage order

 

I've pretty much have given up on a FE. I'd love to get one but doubt I'll be able to and they are super heavy which would make for a creative mounting solution.

 

Since I have an ASUS Tuf motherboard, I really wanted a Tuf 3090 even before the capacitor controversy, but missed my chance Tuesday when Newegg got them in stock and missed the notification email.

 

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Don't base your choice on the capacitator drama.

[RealDCSpilot]

I have the same card as in the 8auers's video. Gigabyte 3090 Gaming OC with the "worst" capacitor config, i personally banned Afterburner now from my system because it isn't needed anymore. 10K of CUDA cores boosting up to 1980 MHz, stable with the latest driver. It's a big punch and enough for me for now.

[Supmua]

Thanks to you guys, I have a MSI at Provantage and a PNY from Office Depot. The first time Office Depot listed them they went out of stock but I checked Tuesday morning and got one in stock. It is taking forever to ship though, with an estimated delivery date of 10/8. Between the two, I like the MSI looks and features better, but they are supposed to have 5 POSCAPs (although the latest drivers may have fixed the crashing). There is almost no info out there about the PNY card and not a big fan of RGB lighting. But as long as Office Depot gets it here next week, I'll probably settle for it and cancel the Provantage order

 

I've pretty much have given up on a FE. I'd love to get one but doubt I'll be able to and they are super heavy which would make for a creative mounting solution.

 

Since I have an ASUS Tuf motherboard, I really wanted a Tuf 3090 even before the capacitor controversy, but missed my chance Tuesday when Newegg got them in stock and missed the notification email.

 

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PNY makes the Quadro series for NVIDIA, so they are pretty reliable just not known for having top tier overclocking cards like Asus or EVGA. The MSI 3090 has 4 POSCAP config, but again some people said that POSCAP config might not be the real issue.

[RealDCSpilot]

About the POSCAP issue, the latest Nvidia driver introduced a better algorithm for boosting clocks to prevent spikes:

Atm, my card is stable boosting up to 1980 MHz, but i have no comparison to unstable behaviour because i started with the most recent driver.

[SimHog]

The question I have is did anyone need to upgrade their PSU to accommodate the 3090?

 

 

Would 850W be sufficient?

[RogueSqdn]

I ordered a 1000w PSU with my system to be safe.

 

 

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[SimHog]

I ordered a 1000w PSU with my system to be safe.

 

 

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Yikes ...

[imacken]

Yikes ...

 

Pretty sure 850W is sufficient.

[RogueSqdn]

850 wasn’t an option, it went from 750 to 1000.

 

 

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[Snake122]

I'm switching cases to go back to my older 1500w (used to run 5 monitors with 2 video cards and got a good deal on it). Going back to it since I have a high overclock with fans/AIO, run a lot of USB devices off the motherboard, and it seems that one of the other crashing issues were cased by power spikes (which still seems to be fixed by the new drivers, but playing it safe). The power calculator I used was only 607 watts without OC and USB devices so decided not to push it on the current 750 PSU.

 

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[dburne]

The question I have is did anyone need to upgrade their PSU to accommodate the 3090?

 

 

Would 850W be sufficient?

 

Based on all I have read it should be.

I would probably not try less, especially if going with the 3090.

[imacken]

850 wasn’t an option, it went from 750 to 1000.

 

 

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Sorry, what did?

[RogueSqdn]

Power supply options when ordering a new system from Falcon Northwest were 550, 750, 1000, and 1200w.

 

 

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[Bob_Bushman]

Headroom is never bad.

Will you run that at the ragged edge, no, but a KW PSU is probably the most efficient at around the 800-900 watt range.

[RogueSqdn]

Yeah, and the only way I’d consider 1200 was if I was trying to run SLI, but there’s no sense in doing that right now, if ever.

 

That, and the 1200w is big enough that it blocks the 3.5” drive bays and restricts you to NVME and SSDs only. I wanted one hard drive for backups.

 

 

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[dawgie79]

NVidia stated that for the 3080 & 3090 a 750W is recommended. So you guys are ok I think.

[hansangb]

You can't imagine my big fat smile yesterday when i tested this, i was happy like a little boy. Extreme highres for both eyes, very high visual quality settings + 4x MSAA on top and still a smooth and pleasant flight experience. This GPU generation is the first one that has enough steam to tackle high quality VR for real. Imagine, if DCS's engine wouldn't be that badly CPU bound, what would be possible...

 

 

Color me jealous!!!! :thumbup::thumbup:

[hansangb]

850 wasn’t an option, it went from 750 to 1000.

 

 

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PSU is the *one* thing you can carry from system to system. So it makes all the sense to buy platinum rated 1K or higher. It'll be with your for 3 or more upgrade cycles.