Severe freezes every 2-3 minutes

[Reflected]

Yeah this is what I’ve been trying. If I restart in safe mode I’m back to square one. All other options (reset/revert/ cms promt) require my password which it doesn’t accept.

[Reflected]

Windows support is telling my that my only remaining option is to wipe my pc and reinstall windows. This would mean losing all my templates, missions, everything. I’ve never been so p*ssed before :mad::(

[Flappie]

I'm sorry, man. I guess you've tried the System Restore or Startp Repair options already (B.1 / B.2 in this link).

Edited October 18, 2020 by Flappie

[Reflected]

Yes, it asks for my password which doesn’t work.

[Flappie]

OK.

Have you tried this?

Try booting your machine with Windows 10 installation media

At the Install screen, click on "Repair" on the lower left.

Then Troubleshoot.

Advanced.

 

Select Command Prompt and type in the following:

bcdedit /deletevalue {default} safeboot

If that gives an error, use:

bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot

[Reflected]

I don’t have my installation usb with me. I’ll try and go to a laptop service tomorrow

[Reflected]

A local tech guy at a laptop repair shop managed to fix it...for 80 eur...

 

He said it was a tough nut to crack, he did something about new user groups and accesses, couldn’t entirely understand it. Anyhow it’s fine now. Will test for stutters later but if I still have them I’ll just wait for ED to fix it.

[Flappie]

Good news! I was feeling awful knowing you got stuck because of me.

Although the diagnostic mode helped me help people in the past, sometimes with great benefits, I will restrain myself to advise it.

 

I'm willing to send you the money it cost you. Please send me your IBAN, or tell me which DCS modules you want but don't have.

[Reflected]

No no, it’s not your fault. It’s an incredibly stupid win10 bug. Thanks for the help anyway, I appreciate the offer.

[skypickle]

Hi. Do you have MSI Dragon Center installed? And what is your antivirus? Do you own a WinWing HOTAS?

Last but not least, can you please attach both your dcs.log and Export.lua files?

 

 

does winwing cause stutters?

[Reflected]

By the way, after all this, the freezes remained :(

 

No I don't have winwing

[Svsmokey]

 

 

does winwing cause stutters?

 

Only if you have Winwing software running , which is only required on initial setup .

[Flappie]

By the way, after all this, the freezes remained :(

I'm still convinced regular stutters like the ones you experiment can only be caused by an external process. Can I have a look at your processes? Here's how to list them. And don't worry, this is 100% safe (read-only Powershell command).

 

[Reflected]

Here you go

 

process_list.txt

[Flappie]

Thank you. Here's a more readable list. I've sorted processes this way:

 

green = Windows + vital drivers

blue = harmless programs

white = probably harmless software linked to hardware

orange = MSI Gaming Dragon Center software (quite a lot of them!)

redish = Adobe (all linked to Photoshop, I suppose)

 

Now, you can try closing (or disabling) the orange and redish programs one at a time and see if you still get stutters ingame. Some of them might restart as soon as you close them, that's why it might be necessary to disable them to do the test. To disable them, look for them in the "Start" tab of the Task Manager, right-click them, and select "Disable".

Edited October 20, 2020 by Flappie

[Reflected]

Should I just go ahead and uninstall Dragon center? I use it for battery saving mode and to set the laptop to “extreme performance” - not sure if it makes a difference

[Reflected]

BTW there was no dragon center on my previous laptop (dell) which also suffered from these freezes

[Taz1004]

These type of stutter are caused by swapping. Your graphic card has 6GB VRAM and is bottleneck compared to your other components. Didn't happen before because DCS started consuming more resources on latest versions.

 

One thing that hasn't been suggested I think is turn off Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling under Windows Graphics Settings. It may help.

 

Otherwise, turn down texture quality and resolution, and MSAA if you're using it.

 

Use Afterburner to monitor VRAM usage but I am almost certain it is maxed as just starting quick instant missions uses about 5GB of my VRAM.

[Reflected]

Damn, it makes sense, thanks. Can I possibly count on optimization? I don’t want to have to buy new gear every year. It never happens over the Caucasus or Normandy, nor Nevada - only near Vegas.

[Flappie]

Do you still have HDDs in your PC? If yes, you might want to read this.

[Reflected]

No, only SSD. DCS has its own with 200 gigs to spare.

[July]

Hey, I hate to dig up a somewhat aging thread, but I've been experiencing the SAME EXACT problems as OP here and also tried all of the same solutions he has tried including some extra ones from the forums only a few of which helped alleviate the problem somewhat (again, just like OP). I am completely at a loss now. This happens in both singleplayer and multiplayer (crowded or not crowded by actual players, seems to make little difference).

 

I used Process Lasso to change CPU affinities as per some instructions on the forum. This did not do much, and sometimes even seemed to worsen the issue. I have also tried raising the priority of DCS but also seemed to do little or nothing at all.

 

I do not have MSI Dragon Center. My current antivirus is only Windows Defender. I do not own a WinWing HOTAS, and this issue has been occuring since before I acquired my new stick (VKB GNXT).

 

I've also gone through the safe mode test and after ~30 mins of flying around in an SU-25T, I experienced very little stuttering (obviously). This was likely due to the low VRAM usage combined with low RAM usage from being in singleplayer with no other applications running. VRAM usage was ~7GB, RAM usage only peaked ~9.5GB (checking with Afterburner).

 

Yes, I know my current settings are somewhat high, but I have tried extremely low preload radius settings, lowest trees visibility, all low textures, pretty much every setting on low, and while it does reduce the frequency of the stuttering somewhat, it always returns. For what? A big hit on visual fidelity for a setup that usually averages +60 FPS with the settings you see in the screenshot for most scenarios anyway (except on Growling Sidewinder).

 

CPU: i7-7700K

GPU: 1080 Ti (11GB VRAM)

RAM: 16GBs GDDR4 @ 3200mhz

SSD: Sandisk Z410

 

[Flappie]

Hi July. It's always better to open a new thread because even if symptoms are identical, solutions aren't always the same. Thank you for the video. Can you please attach your dcs.log? For starters, watch the first 10 lines. You should see the size of the system pagefile. If it's lower than 16 GB, please consider setting it manually to 16 GB.

[July]

Should I make a new thread then or continue posting here? I have tried changing the size of my pagefile manually, from setting it down to 2 GB, 4 GB, because some people on this forum have said it fixed their problems (which others say is stupid, and to continue letting windows manage it instead). I have also tried changing the pagefile size all the way up to 32 GB as well. This did not fix the problem.

dcs.log

[Flappie]

Let's keep it here since your first post was very detailed. You curently have 24GB of pagefile for 16GB of RAM. It's fine.

 

Since you said you had nearly no stutters in safe mode, I think we need to study your running processes. Please attach a file listing all your running processes. Here's how to create it.