NickF08 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Hello, Yesterday I was playing with my buddy without issue, but today with the new open beta update. We cannot see each other moving anymore, but we are stuck in our spawn position. Has anyone else had this issue? Thanks, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Were you on a public server? Which one? I'll give it a try. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSV_Tango Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Same issue here using A-4. Official DCS planes seems to work ! Member of the Virtual Patrouille Suisse Since 2010. High and slow, fast and low. Intel i9-12900k | 64GB RAM | RTX4090 | HP Rerverb G2 | T-50CM3 Base | WinWing Set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPS_Zen Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Same here ... (with the A-4) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF08 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 I had this happen on a couple Public Servers. I was on the Aerobatics, and I would see all my friends actions on his aircraft, like closing his canopy, throttling up, rearming, but his plane did not move from that position. We then went to a training server, dont remember the name, and this happened again, he would not move, although he was moving on his screen. I also had this later on in the day while playing by myself, I asked a question in the server chat and I told them my position flying over an airfield miles from where Ive taken off. But when they tried looking for me they only found me at the airfield I spawned at on the ground. I switched back to stable with my friend, and we never had the problem again. Super weird. Edit: These were all in official DCS planes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabuggi Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Hi guys, Similar issue here as well after beta update. MP mission with multiple client planes. Weirdly.....if me and my buddy both choose a10c's, it works fine, as normal. If i went in as the su-25t, and my buddy in a10c, then i can see everything as normal, including him moving his plane, but he cant see me moving. To test, I talked him into ramming me - collision detection definitely still works! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I saw reports on the GAW server that someone was apparently just sitting on the runway shooting rockets. Turns out they were not there at all but at their target area shooting valid targets. This is a new level of desync. He got the video here: 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Guys, since you all have the same issue, there's definitely something going on in latest OB. Now, we need a pattern to find the bug. Can you please attach the following? server track client track server log client log What kind of server did this happen with? Only dedicated server, only standard server, or both? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 7, 2020 ED Team Share Posted November 7, 2020 Hi, as flappie suggests we need to see as much data as possible on the issue, short tracks showing examples and a dcs log would be helpful here. I would recommend removing all unofficial mods and edits to test with a vanilla install, to rule out a mod issue first. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pilotto Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 We recorded some tracks and logs, but tracks (client ones) are to big to be uploaded. I will upload client logs and serever track and logs. The server was standart one, not dedicated.Server log.zipdcs.logdcs.logdcs.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Dont know if the cause, but we have noticed desync, long server freeze, when hitting static objects. Also their score goes mental, so it is as if they are counted numerous times. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTG_Marvin Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Tried a quick session with my buddy, both our tracks included.mp_desync_test-20201108-183437.trkserver-20201108-163334.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaze Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 There's no need for a track, because that will just show yourself move around the map. The problem is with other clients and the server. I know for sure that EVERY SU-25T will not update his position after spawn and you can kill it with bombs where he spawns. You can also see them shoot on the ground.. example: https://gfycat.com/sentimentalflawlesscicada (they were hitting a Carrier group) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTG_Marvin Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 That's why there are both our tracks from the same time - one clearly shows movement, the other doesn't, we've even switched places. In any way, Flappie asked for some short tracks, and I've sent some short tracks. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I experienced a similar issue yesterday, flying on the Blue Flag Syria server. Over the duration of about 1 minute we had severe desync while taxing and saw each others aircraft sink into the ground and not moving, while we ourselves were actually still moving. First I thought the server crashed, which happens sometimes, but then I noticed everything else (e.g. chat) seemed to work normally, making this a rather odd desync event I've not seen before. After about a minute everything returned to normal and we saw each other suddenly teleporting to our actual positions on the taxiway. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 That's why there are both our tracks from the same time - one clearly shows movement, the other doesn't, we've even switched places. In any way, Flappie asked for some short tracks, and I've sent some short tracks. :) Precisely. Here's what we get when we synchronize these tracks: In the latest part, when you both had Su-25 (A and T), you couldn't even see each other? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnNom Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Here is me and a few friends demonstrating the issue. The perspective is from a 3rd party, the two people talking are each in a 25T. We run them into eachother. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 So far, plagued aircraft are: Su-25T (mentioned by nearly everyone here and seen in OnNom's video) Su-25 "A" (seen in StandingCow's video and in my video of Marvin's track) A-4E mod (which flight model is probably based on the Su-25T's) @NickF08 You said it happened with "all in official DCS planes". Have you witnessed another type of aircraft having this bug? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTG_Marvin Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 In the latest part, when you both had Su-25 (A and T), you couldn't even see each other? We could see each other standing in place where we spawned. We later tested it a bit more - I was shooting rockets at the place he was on his screen, then at the place where he was on my screen (he took the 25t, I was in the M2KC): in the first case, the rockets did no damage even though they were on target in his sim; in the second case, I managed to destroy him even though he was a few km away form the point I was shooting at. Later, he crashed into me in-flight, killing both of us, even though he was still on the ground on my screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) OK. My question is about what we can (or cannot) see in my video of your track: you spawn at 1:22 in a Su-25T, and your buddy ("client side") can't see you at all. Were you distant from each other? EDIT: oh, yes, it seems you had spawned in another part of the airfield. Edited November 10, 2020 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTG_Marvin Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I think we just happened to spawn facing away from each other - if you use the F2 view, you should be able to see me in that track. edit: Rather, I happened to spawn behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=К=Атом Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The su-25 and su-25T are not reloaded or repaired at allied airfields. They do not see each other in the air because in the network, each sees the other in the spawn parking lot, although they are 100... km from the airfield. We need an urgent fix for this bug! i7-4790k, 32ggb, 2070, 2560x1440, TrackIR5, Win10, всё в синей изоленте, и чуток SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon_S Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Same player, spoted with his two Su25T's at Maykop but in that time he flying above Gudauta. When he pop flares there these two at Maykop poping flares etc... Quote Немој ништа силом, узми већи чекић! MSI Tomahawk MAX | Ryzen 7 3700x | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | RX 5700 XT OC Red Dragon 8GB | VPC Throttle CM3 + VPC Constellation ALPHA on VPC WarBRD Base | HP Reverb G2 Youtube | Follow Me on TWITCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The screenshot speaks for itself! :shocking: Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 In today's OB changelog: MP. Su-25, Su-25T net phantom is not syncronized with pilot when server started paused - fixed. 2 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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