CommandT Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 As above. Since the last patch I absolutely hate the MPCD font - seems like too few pixels and looks rather strange. Struggling to read some of the text displayed. Is this a bug or is this actually an update to stay for good? Thanks! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Not a "bug" per se but a very bad change that need to be reverted 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandT Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Draken35 said: Not a "bug" per se but a very bad change that need to be reverted Is the real Harrier really like this? Surely that can't be right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I dunno how the real thing looks like ... But from my perspective a bug is a logical error in the code... This is just a terrible choice of font 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kazansky Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Same here. Stable DCS was updated to the new AV8B MFDs and those are not good concerning readability in VR (G2 3000x3000 and 4xAA). I loved the old MFDs. Edited March 6, 2021 by Tom Kazansky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 I hope that the quality of the MFDs improves for 2.7 ... I love the Harrier, but this is one of the "turn off" issues for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftmch Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 You can "fix" these fonts by editing one of the lua files in the cockpit folder for the AV8B. You just change a couple of numbers and it looks a lot better. I'll update this post with the exact change when I'm back from work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netizensmith Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Sad to report that there are no noticeable improvement in 2.7 regarding the quality of the MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 19 hours ago, Draken35 said: Sad to report that there are no noticeable improvement in 2.7 regarding the quality of the MFDs Yep. Was expecting that this would have been fixed. But can't read the displays so back to configuring on Display_StrokeDefs.lua again to get it fixed. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 The worst thing is that I lost the backup of my values.... So, I have to redo that work, plus, re tweak my graphic settings ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netizensmith Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) My Display_StrokeDefs.lua looks like this: stroke_thickness = 0.5 stroke_fuzziness = 0.4 -- Currently is used for DMC generated fonts black outline DMC_outline_thickness = 0.0 DMC_outline_fuzziness = 0.0 DMC_stroke_thickness = 0.65 DMC_stroke_fuzziness = 0.42 Note the changed values in red. I couple this with dialling the gain right back and dropping the contrast a few notches and have a super readable MPCD in 2D and VR Edited April 15, 2021 by netizensmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Thanks! I'll give it try Edit: That actually works very well... Can't recall what my settings where before, but these works very well! 2 hours ago, netizensmith said: My Display_StrokeDefs.lua looks like this: stroke_thickness = 0.5 stroke_fuzziness = 0.4 -- Currently is used for DMC generated fonts black outline DMC_outline_thickness = 0.0 DMC_outline_fuzziness = 0.0 DMC_stroke_thickness = 0.65 DMC_stroke_fuzziness = 0.42 Note the changed values in red. I couple this with dialling the gain right back and dropping the contrast a few notches and have a super readable MPCD in 2D and VR Edited April 15, 2021 by Draken35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwlue Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Bit of OT, can I disable the moving map via Display_StrokeDefs.lua ??? new to this mod/workaround. sorry. Edited April 19, 2021 by mwlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 9 hours ago, mwlue said: Bit of OT, can I disable the moving map via Display_StrokeDefs.lua ??? new to this mod/workaround. sorry. No, but disabling from the cockpit is just a couple of clicks.... That's what I doing to have a readable EHSDI ... The alternative is a bunch of clicks (like 50!) to reduce GAIN and play with contrast settings. How much depends on the map you are flying on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramstein Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I knew it just was not me,, it is terrible.. it is like looking at a Tandy Montior from 1986! ASUS Z170, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 32 GB, Samsung 1TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpiinoo Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Please fix officially... 2 Modules: A-10C Warthog / A-10C II Tank Killer / F-15C / SU-33 / AV-8B Harrier / F-16C Viper / AJS-37 Viggen / F/A-18C Hornet / F-14A/B Tomcat / Supercarrier Terrains: Persian Gulf / Syria / NTTR SYSTEM: AMD FX-8320 3.5Ghz, Nvidia GTX 1050Ti 4GB, 8GB Ram DDR3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Coyle Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Thanks all for sharing. Flying Crashing the Viper Viggen Harrier Apache IYAOYAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Well, well, well... Looks like an improvement was made.... Gain looks a lot lower and the Display_StrokesDef.lua file has some new definitions in it. The values might , still, need some tweaking but it looks definitely better. Of course, there is nothing in the change log . Razbam team, the work on this is appreciated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aernov Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 IRL you can change "thickness" of MPCD font stroke with "SYM" switch. In DCS currently, I think, it just directly changes symbology brightness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanitho Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 12:10 AM, Draken35 said: Well, well, well... Looks like an improvement was made.... Gain looks a lot lower and the Display_StrokesDef.lua file has some new definitions in it. The values might , still, need some tweaking but it looks definitely better. Of course, there is nothing in the change log . Razbam team, the work on this is appreciated. No, not really better , much better fonts in F-18 or F-16 .... MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - Intel I7 4790K - Artic cooling freezer 7 pro rev 2 - GSKILL 32 Go - SSD Crucial M5 120 go - SSD Crucial 2To - HDD western digital caviar blue 1 TO - Gigabyte GTX 1070 Gaming G1 - Windows 10 home 64 bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, clanitho said: No, not really better , much better fonts in F-18 or F-16 .... Haven't flown the 16 but can't argue against the Hornet's fonts been better. So, let me rephrase that "it seems that Razbam is trying to improve it" ... Happy now? I think that part of the issue, besides the gain being absurdly high before this patch (that is a bit better now) is the actual color/transparency/width of the font used in the MCPD. It doesn't provide good contrast. Perhaps, that's why the black outline is there... My problem with the black outline is that in VR (Quest 2, max resolution) it makes the symbols "vibrate" and unreadable unless you move a lot closer to the MCPD. It is even unreadable with VR zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 In case anybody is interested, these are the current values I used for VR (Quest 2) Quote stroke_thickness = 0.5 stroke_fuzziness = 0.4 -- Currently is used for DMC generated fonts black outline DMC_outline_thickness = 0 -- stroke_thickness * 3 DMC_outline_fuzziness = 0 -- stroke_fuzziness * 1.1 DMC_stroke_thickness = 0.65 DMC_stroke_fuzziness = 0.42 -- MPCDs -- MFDs MPCD_stroke_thickness = 2.0 -- 0.9 MPCD_stroke_fuzziness = 0 -- 0.4 MPCD_outline_thickness = 0 --MPCD_stroke_thickness * 3 MPCD_outline_fuzziness = 0 --MPCD_stroke_fuzziness * 1.1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulkas Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Anyones knows how this new parameters in the lua affect the fonts? Whit the old lua I only had to set to 0 the DMC outline and I had great fonts. With the new one I had many tries yesterday but the fonts become semitransparent and they are impossible to use with the map. Also the MFDs night mode appears no to work that well. I have to use day mode at night and turn down a lot brightness and gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Apparently the fix for this is waiting for ED to push the 3rd party patch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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