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Hi, 

 

I find it hard to understand how this great piece of hardware can have such bad software (T. A. R. G. E. T). To me personally I only work as it should one in ten times of odd days. And it's not that what this evil does, is that when it feels like it, it doesn't. When a thing doesn't work...Another one doesn't work.

 

In the end I chose not to use it, assign the keys directly in Dcs.

Can anyone recommend me some alternative? (I've seen that there are several)

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I have never found target to be difficult, though occasionally i end up trying to do the wrong thing... rather than the other way around.  

 

When i was still using it,  I used it to remap the buttons as needed to a single coherent dx button map to get close to 128 buttons,  and then mapped the buttons in DCS, rather than  trying to create a profile in TARGET for each plane that way lies madness!

 

but if you are looking for an alternative; try Joystick Gremlin (whitemagic.github.io) 

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Being used to Foxy which was the software to program the TM Cougar, i briefly switched to T. A. R. G. E. T (script version, not the GUI) when the Warthog came out but found it... difficult.

Last year however, i switched my Cougar for a Warthog and then Foxy was out of the question so i started using T. A. R. G. E. T again.

Looked up a few profiles on the net, went through the manual one step at the time and i kinda like it because it's powerfull.

I made myself a template and a few common micro files for general input, comms, views etc which are the same (or should be the same) for every aircraft.

This keeps my profiles tidy and puts common stuff always under the same buttons.

From there i add stuff per aircraft. Works fine, i don't need anything else.

 

But if you look for something different, i also would go the road speed-of-heat points out: Joystick Gremlin.

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For DCS simply run the DX128 profile (effects throttle only) and program for each plane in DCS Settings, easy as pie and works 100% of the time. If you want to get crazy with special functions, you better learn how to write in TARGET's code.. 

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Fwiw 🙂 :

I don't use any software for my TM Warthog and Cougar, aside from the default Windows 10 controller detection (but I don't know if that is considered as 'software' here)

 

Back in the days when I just received my Cougar (soon as it became available some 17 years ago or so?), I used TARGET when playing Falcon 4.0.

 

But since at least a decade I dropped TARGET as, same like you, I never really came to understanding its possibilities and how it all works (let's say I have other interests 😉 )

 

Now I just bind all buttons within DCS and that works totally fine for me. Both my HOTAS can do anything the real thing can.

 

To be fair thought, I also don't need 120 button options with multiple modifiers, because:

  1. I have Pointctrl
  2. My poor brain wouldn't remember them all anyways
  3. As said before, by default it's possible to replicate the real life HOTAS
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On 7/8/2021 at 8:57 AM, Lange_666 said:

Being used to Foxy which was the software to program the TM Cougar, i briefly switched to T. A. R. G. E. T (script version, not the GUI) when the Warthog came out but found it... difficult.

Last year however, i switched my Cougar for a Warthog and then Foxy was out of the question ...

 

That is my number 1 reason for holding on to my Cougar, instead of replacing it with a newer Hotas ... I love the easy programming that Foxy affords and Target scripting is much too difficult for me to learn. Hopefully my Cougar will last me a few years more 🙏

 

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25 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

Hopefully my Cougar will last me a few years more 🙏

 

I hope so too 🤞

 

Lucky for us there are still guys like @rel4y

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3 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

 I love the easy programming that Foxy affords and Target scripting is much too difficult for me to learn.

 

I thought so too after using it for the first time when it was released with the Warthog. I thought of converting my Foxy profiles to Target ones but quite quickly dropped that idea. Now way i'm gonna use that...

After replacing my Cougar with a Warthog last year i took the plunge again, first with the GUI but i wanted something more. Went through the script manual step by step until at one point, fairly quickly to be honest... hey, i see some light in the dark... LOL. Now, it's as easy to use as Foxy.

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The script editor takes a while to get used to, I'll admit. But once you get the hang of it, it's silly simple. The possibilities are almost endless and you can just do so much more than what any combination of target + whatever program can offer.

 

The only thing that I can't get it to do is axis smoothing, but then again, there is no other program to my knowledge that does that.

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I write my own scripts now and agree it's best way to go, the learning curve is worth it, no question.

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