creme_fraiche Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Reproduction steps: 1. Engine start 2. INS to "NORM ALIGN" 3. Wait for the alignment quality to tick down Expected Result: Alignment quality should hit 6 on "NORM ALIGN" Actual Result: Alignment quality stays at 10 and goes no further Track was bigger than 5MB: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lrv02mgigvsenig/viper_ins.trk?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tholozor Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 At work so I can't check the track, but did you confirm the starting coordinates on the DED with the ENT button on the ICP? If not the system will flag the alignment as degraded. REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCaboose Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Tholozor said: At work so I can't check the track, but did you confirm the starting coordinates on the DED with the ENT button on the ICP? If not the system will flag the alignment as degraded. Haven't checked the track either, but I believe my buddy did this as well and mentioned that confirming the coordinates doesn't seem to matter. 476th vFG Website, 476th vFG Discord, 476th vFG Pipeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Same here, stuck at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Solution BIGNEWY Posted July 24, 2021 ED Team Solution Share Posted July 24, 2021 This is correct as is at the moment. Status 10 is the minimum it will reach, there is not enough detailed information on how to reach status 6. thanks 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Status 6 should be reachable with an enhanced interrupted alignment (EIA). The requirements are: Perform a normal alignment with or without interruption to status 10 Filter mode set INS (DED menus, updates invalidate EIA) Knob set to NAV Taxi of no more than 80 kts On new heading >70 degrees from first knob set NORM for 4+ additional minutes (status counts from 10 to 6) Time spent in knob NAV <10 minutes between additional alignment times Additional alignments repeat as necessary (best is 0 degree, 180 degree, 90 degree for three sessions) Remember to set INS filter mode back to auto after status 6 and performing zero velocity/position update (after GPS online a plus) improves INU trimming the most. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbyJabara Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: This is correct as is at the moment. Status 10 is the minimum it will reach, there is not enough detailed information on how to reach status 6. thanks @BIGNEWYIf there was an open source document that described it would that be enough to bring it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creme_fraiche Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 As long as A/G weapon accuracy isn’t degraded by not going down to 6. Thanks @BIGNEWY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotor633 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Hello, a question: 10 or 6. What is the difference? What is the benefit for me in DCS when status 6 is reached in the alignment? ************************************** DCS World needs the Panavia Tornado! Really! ************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 25, 2021 ED Team Share Posted July 25, 2021 Hi all to clarify this issue our Viper is INS + GPS, not EGI. We will be cleaning up our manual to reflect this. thank you 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee-Jay Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said: to clarify this issue our Viper is INS + GPS, not EGI. Hi! You mean "IRS + GPS" ? AFAIK, all US F-16 has been equipped with ring laser gyro (RLG) from the Blk30/32 standard. Unless I am wrong, all variants above the 30/32 are equipped with RLG INU. An RLG INU is called IRS (Inertial Reference System), not INS which are mechanical gyros, not laser gyros. Same functions are provided, but some details are basically different. An IRS has an much less internal drift is than a INS, and some stuff are different on align init. In manuals and panels, acronyms has never been updated. As you said above, most of military IRS are now hybridized with GPS, some are embedded (EGI), the most modern and performant inertial system is now the HRG (Hemispherical Resonator Gyro) we have on Rafale (on F-35?). Regards. Edited July 25, 2021 by Dee-Jay ASUSTeK ROG MAXIMUS X HERO / Intel Core i5-8600K (4.6 GHz) / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FE 12GB / 32GB DDR4 Ballistix Elite 3200 MHz / Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB / Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 1000W Platinum / Windows 10 Home 64-bit / HOTAS Cougar FSSB R1 (Warthog grip) / SIMPED / MFD Cougar / ViperGear ICP / SimShaker JetPad / Track IR 5 / Curved LED 27'' Monitor 1080p Samsung C27F396 / HP Reverb G2 VR Headset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tholozor Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 The whole system of the RLG INU and the INU rack is referred to as the 'INS.' 2 REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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